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Trans women and periods

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MhairiV · 08/03/2019 17:02

I'm just going to throw it out there - few things make me more angry than reading about trans women and their 'periods'. Now I know I've had them my whole adolescent/adult life and I know plenty about how they work (and how they impact your life when they're not straightforward, god I know about that) but where does this trans period bollocks come from?

Without a uterus or ovaries or eggs or uterine lining or any of that stuff, where does any sort of cycle come from? Do they take oestrogen on an artificial cycle with progesterone or something? Or am I basically affording way too much time and thinking to something which makes zero sense in the first place and should just ignore it altogether? 🤨

Even if there is some element of truth in "sore breasts and dreadful moodswings" I'm still going to be angry anyway, I guess. That's not a period. That's sore boobs and a moodswing.

Help me o wise ones.

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MhairiV · 08/03/2019 18:30

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/03/2019 18:23

They do know where menstrual blood comes from don’t they?

Why doesn’t someone give them a little female anatomical doll when they declare themselves a woman? It might clear up a few things.

adultFemaleElf · 08/03/2019 18:21

This is ridiculous.
Lots of men take female hormones for other reasons (prostate cancer for example) and they most definitely don’t start having periods with their non existent female reproductive organs.

TurboTeddy · 08/03/2019 18:18

Transwomen are prescribed the contraceptive pill to provide them with female hormones. They take a monophasic (dose is the same in every tablet) type without a seven day break so there are no cyclic variations in hormones. Oestrogen does not cause cramping, prostaglandin does. I wish someone would buy the poor lambs a biology book. If they are losing blood they need to see a doctor!

Unlike most hormones, the prostaglandins are not secreted from a gland to be carried in the bloodstream and work on specific areas around the body. Instead, they are made by a chemical reaction at the site where they are needed and can be made in nearly all the organs in the body. Prostaglandins are part of the body’s way of dealing with injury and illness.

Fermat's and Jessica I empathise; 25 years to get my diagnosis of endo and then discovered adenomyosis (endo's evil cousin) as a bonus. Dismissed by numerous doctors when I told them I thought I had endo. Too much damage done,due to delay in diagnosis, for a hysterectomy, or at the surgery would be high risk. I now have morphine when I need it and will have to wait for the menopause to rid me of the pain. I'll just go and check my cis privilege. This kind of shit makes me rage.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/03/2019 18:08

I do get the impression that men are more likely to be fetishsits than woman. No idea why I think this but they seem to be more ‘out there’.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 08/03/2019 18:05

That's because they're not fetishists.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/03/2019 17:59

You don’t hear if transmen claiming enlarged prostates or testicular cancer do you? Or shaving a chunk of their scalp and shrieking with excitement ‘ohhhh my male patterned baldness is soooooo terrible!’.

nauticant · 08/03/2019 17:58

It's mendacity, mental illness, or both. Depending on who is saying it.

WaddIelikeapenguin · 08/03/2019 17:57

CakeWineFlowers for all those suffering a lousy period right now

If you’re not shedding your uterine lining you’re not having a bloody period. If you’re a transwoman you don’t have a bloody uterus FFS Angry

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 08/03/2019 17:44

FermatsTheorem I too am having another bad period right now, damn my privilege of having endometriosis huh? Some days I am too heavy to leave my home. It is beyond any other kind of appropriating I have ever seen, for males to claim they menstruate. It is sick and twisted behaviour from fetishists. My gran had a close transsexual friend I visited often, and I have had transsexual friends as an adult. NONE of them would ever claim this or any other part of womanhood and they’d be sickened at this creepy revolting behaviour. These are entitled males who cannot handle women having something they don’t.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/03/2019 17:37

So where is the blood? Nicking your testicles with nail scissors to cause a bleed ain’t a period son.

Anyone with half a brain knows that a MAN cannot have a PERIOD and not all WOMEN have periods.

Once more for the slow kids at the back of the class: PERIOD havers are all women but not all WOMEN have periods.

10IAR · 08/03/2019 17:35

Pretty much, and there were some fairly aggressive attacks on women on twitter who dared suggested that only a person born female (ie a pre op trans man and a woman) needed smears and could have cervical cancer. Anyone who disagreed was subjected to all the usual threats and aggression.

Given that my mother died of it, it got my back right up.

It's fucking awful.

BettyDuMonde · 08/03/2019 17:33

🙊

MhairiV · 08/03/2019 17:30

I know I'm going to regret even asking this but what in the world is a neo-cervix? Is it the furthest away end of the...eh... inside out penis pocket?

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WhoGivesADamnForAFlakeyBandit · 08/03/2019 17:27

But but but if 80% of transwo men have had zero genital surgery then what exactly do they think is happening? Are they all related to that 9 periods/£6.99 per year on tampons man?

killpop · 08/03/2019 17:25

I wonder how many transwomen have died due to sepsis after having their symptoms brushed away as 'just a period'.

10IAR · 08/03/2019 17:24

Don't get them started on smears and how a "neo cervix" can be cancerous! Along with the bullshit changing the language around smear tests, as if it isn't hard enough.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 08/03/2019 17:23

Male people dont have periods.

If they are experiencing symptoms similar to mensuration, they need to seek medical help quickly.

Older transpeople shouldn't be telling lies like this on social media. Young transpeople may be experiencing serious medical problems and might not get help because they are under the impression that what is happy to them is normal. If a male is bleeding from their genitals something is wrong.

AssassinatedBeauty · 08/03/2019 17:18

That's still appropriation and total nonsense to call that a period. It's not. It's fetishing women to dress that up and call it a period.

EarlyModernParent · 08/03/2019 17:17

BettyDuMonde that really made me laugh!

Drogosnextwife · 08/03/2019 17:17

Next it will be phantom pregnancies, if it hasn't already happened.

MhairiV · 08/03/2019 17:16

Yep. That's pretty much why I'm extra angry about it today Fermats Angry

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MhairiV · 08/03/2019 17:15

Yes, I read some quite disturbing info about faking periods and similar horrors. There's definitely no hormonal link though, artificially created with drugs or otherwise? Nada? I suppose I just didn't think it was out of the realms of possibility that they might manufacture a hormonal cycle of some sort and refer to it as a period.

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Mrskeats · 08/03/2019 17:14

Ridiculous. Periods need eggs and a uterus: that person is a nut job

FermatsTheorem · 08/03/2019 17:13

Fetishising, appropriating bolleaux.

(I am having a bad period at the moment. I might be more than a little bit prone to get ragey about this crap right now. Still, at least I'm not going to be banished to a menstruation hut and die. Small mercies and all that... They can fuck off to the far side of fuck, and when they get there, fuck off some more.)

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