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Trans activists occupying MoJ

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OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 08/03/2019 14:39

mobile.twitter.com/rosiekerrs/status/1103995803511721984

50 activists are reportedly occupying the MoJ as a protest regarding trans women having their own prison wing created for them.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2019 15:47

Link to the Action for Trans Health Manifesto:

edinburghath.tumblr.com/post/163521055802/trans-health-manifesto

MeAgainAgain · 08/03/2019 15:46

"an end to incarceration"

Jess Bradley's lot.
Manifesto included demanding immediate release of all trans prisoners.

Right-ho.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2019 15:46

and orange jacket people (are they journalists?).

I think they are probably marshalls. I think marchers are generally required to provide them.

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 08/03/2019 15:45

The person getting dressed has cracked me up. What a glorious video.

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thirdfiddle · 08/03/2019 15:41

Aw bless them they're very young aren't they. And nearly outnumbered by police and orange jacket people (are they journalists?). Only someone very young and idealistic could think abolishing prisons is in any way sane. Or that prison staff are responsible for any significant proportion of prison violence. Unless it's the acknowledging biological reality type of "literal" violence?

jay55 · 08/03/2019 15:39

Trans women do not have to go to prison at all. They could not break the law, not be violent thugs, not rape people.
I honestly think some TRAs want to go.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2019 15:33

Did the person getting dressed In The video

I missed that Grin. So much to see in such a short video. And heartwarming to see the vast support for their cause.

GahWhatever · 08/03/2019 15:32

A whole wing at HMP Downview (a women's prison) has been set aside for three transwomen with GRC who are deemed too dangerous to be in with the main prison population.
There are no plans to roll out such segregation through the whole prison service.
And on IWD 50 trans activists chose to ride this particular hobby horse all the way to the MoJ? Really, of all the things anyone could campaign for on IWD? How intersectional of them.

BettyDuMonde · 08/03/2019 15:32
Grin
Trans activists occupying MoJ
andyoldlabour · 08/03/2019 15:31

"That’s all the MOJ staff peaked then."

Exactly that, the more people who are made aware of their obvious agenda the better.
I wonder if it will get a mention on the news at six?

WaddIelikeapenguin · 08/03/2019 15:30

Did the person getting dressed In The video wear the wrong protest t shirt or were they buttoned to the wrong side Confused

Knicknackpaddyflak · 08/03/2019 15:30

And the posters and twitter stuff includes lets abolish prisons generally stuff too.

Honestly, hasn't it now got sufficiently overdramatic and batty that even the MoJ can see through it?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2019 15:29

The fact they’re insisting, like with bathrooms, that they must be in with women, rather than have their own space, speaks volumes

Doesn't it just Angry

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 08/03/2019 15:29

The fact they’re insisting, like with bathrooms, that they must be in with women, rather than have their own space, speaks volumes.

SophoclesTheFox · 08/03/2019 15:27

Helena Steal, a member of Community Action on Prison Expansion,

Sorry, none of this is funny, but I did a big snort-laugh at that name in that context 😂 is she for or against expansion?

theOtherPamAyres · 08/03/2019 15:27

I thought pro-trans lobby groups and activists argued that transwomen safety and security was paramount.

Obviously not.

They OPPOSE a special unit that caters for their unique needs. They OPPOSE the protection of a safe space for transgender people. Safety isn't an issue.

Who'd have thought it? Shock

StarSpangledAnna · 08/03/2019 15:27

If this is real then I think it will get a lot of people's attention. Even my very, very non-GC sister agrees with GC reasoning when it comes to prisons (she remains unconvinced either way re sports).

silentcrow · 08/03/2019 15:24

This mirrors disturbing plans to expand the prison estate to hold 10,000 more inmates by 2020, including plans to build a non-binary prison in Scotland.

A non-binary prison??? Well, that sounds like a delightfully safe place to be in possession of a vagina.

This is just the anti-prison lot again, isn't it? That's not going to play well with the general population or those in government with their snouts in the trough of public money.

HappyPunky · 08/03/2019 15:24

If TWAW why are they complaining, where are the men in a TW wing?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2019 15:22

Video here:

twitter.com/therobwatson/status/1103948574495330304?s=19

I can't work out what they are chanting but I am very amused that there are about 15 of them and the ones at the back are carrying their banner upside down Grin

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 08/03/2019 15:21

Here is a press release of sorts about it mobile.twitter.com/iwoc_london/status/1103996654900920326

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/03/2019 15:21

From the IWW website, who' recognises that prisoners are on the frontline of wage/prison slavery, capitalist exploitation and the State’s war on the working class.' No mention of it being all trans biased...

'We’re occupying the ministry of justice to show them that we won’t stand idly by while they expose incarcerated trans women to vast amounts of violence and isolation. We won’t let them demonise us as monsters from which other women need to be protected. We want them to know that we hold them personally responsible for any and all deaths of trans women in prison and and state custody. Death in prison is state-sanctioned murder!'

We won’t let them demonise US as monsters from which other women need to be protected. So its all about the men innit.

Deadbudgie · 08/03/2019 15:20

so half the TW population have been accused of sexual assults then complaining about not being treated as women. Just a thought, have surgery -without anesthestic- to remove their "manhoods" - kill two birds with one stone.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 08/03/2019 15:19

It’s miserable in London today, grey all day and raining all afternoon

Anlaf · 08/03/2019 15:19

Star that is impressive investigating.

It is currently cloudy in London although I recollect it may have been sunnyish earlier when I opened the window to shout at next door's pussycat. (It is trying to mate my pussycat, the fiend)