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What are you planning for IWD tomorrow?

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MrsFogi · 07/03/2019 21:05

I'm going to:

  • stick up at least 50 FPFW postcards around;
  • put up a good article about Self ID on my RL FB account and interact with friends who respond;
  • have invited lots of women I know to drop in for a coffee any time during the day and I intend to ensure I bring up the subject of self-ID;
  • oh, and I'm sending in a load of sweets for the DDs' classmates.
Interested to hear any other "pledges" so I can copy some of them Grin.
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Angryresister · 08/03/2019 23:26

Went to gathering in our small town ( not in Uk) good inspiring talks from all sorts of women representing eg carers, DV survivors, students, hotel workers, all basically saying our rights were being dismantled. I personally discussed with a liberal feminist friend how there are big problems re attitudes re prostitution being seen as work, and the takeover of women's space by TRAs....she only really sees the problem as capitalism. I think I am now seen as a bit beyond the pale...

UncomfortableSecret · 08/03/2019 22:45

Well ... I went to karate, came home to eat chocolate and drink wine and PMSL at Richard Herring's sterling work yet again. I feel pretty empowered. Grin

ToeToToe · 08/03/2019 22:34

I think I misread it. I've been drinking wine Grin You'll have to excuse my posts tonight Grin

Thethingswedoforlove · 08/03/2019 22:31

I donated much earlier today and have been totally distracted all day! I think he raised an additional £40k or so on the day after Iwd last year which brought the total up so high. That might have been the tweet you are referring to. It’s so amazing!

ToeToToe · 08/03/2019 22:20

Oh that's so amazing - I was going by his tweet! He's raised 105k so far, and still rising. I just donated Smile

He's done good. Wine

Thethingswedoforlove · 08/03/2019 22:18

Toetotoe Richard herring raised £150k last year. He is hoping to beat it this year. Well done for linking to it. He is soooo funny!

WisdomOfCrowds · 08/03/2019 22:12

I wish I'd done something as active as you all seem to have. I went to the IWD celebration in my city and signed up with some of the organisations that had stands there. I also bought my children some books on feminism. But I failed woefully to confront (to steal a phrase I saw here a few days ago) "the wokest handmaiden that ever did live" as she lectured me on trans rights/ transphobia (beginning with the phrase "I've never met a trans person, but...") She was telling me all about the hour long facebook argument she'd just had on the subject, and I just didn't have an hour to spend getting yelled at. So I just nodded and grimaced and then hid until she left.

Can someone tell me how to find these postcards you're all sticking up?

ToeToToe · 08/03/2019 21:55

Richard Herring raised £40k for Refuge last year, by tweeting - this year it's £105k already!

That's amazing.

elQuintoConyo · 08/03/2019 21:51

I went on a march Grin

rocketromano · 08/03/2019 21:47

Well I spoke to some people at work, quite tentatively. We spoke about gender stereotypes, trans people in sport, the need for single sex toilets in schools, ‘transing the gay away’, homophobia etc. Everyone was in agreement with what I said. I work for NHS so this is a scary thing to talk about! I’ve never broached it at work before but it came up in conversation and I was pleased how many people were strongly in agreement.

ToeToToe · 08/03/2019 21:40

Every day seems to be an assault on women's rights at the moment.

But I applaud the women on here, and everywhere, fighting back Smile

GeorgeR · 08/03/2019 21:07

I am going to: Do literally nothing... come on ladies! Every day is women day, we should be celebrating our skills and superiority everyday!!! #FuckThePatriachy

ToeToToe · 08/03/2019 21:02

I'm now drunk on International Women's Day. Well, it's Friday - dh and I cracked the wine open at 6.40...

Firstly - I love al you women here and on twitter. And our beautiful sportswomen who have blown this thing wide open. Sharron, Martina, Dame Kelly - love you. You stood up.

But - god the shit that's on twitter. Fuck "intersectional" feminism. You are not feminists. You are not out for women. Feminism does not include penises ffs.

Here's a taste of what I've seen on Twitter on #IWD:

twitter.com/SabrinaMulhJj/status/1103054462556479489

Let's demonise women on International Women's Day.

twitter.com/Women_Strike/status/1103949889657098240

Transactivists protest against trans people getting their own prison blocks. How awful for them.

A bunch of men whining 'when's International Men's Day?'

It's November 19th, guys. Didn't you notice it last year, or the year before, or the year before that??

The Women's Strike promoting the prostitution of women as work:

twitter.com/SWARM_North/status/1104018636375814146

I mean ffs. Gah.

Love you all.

Never has an IWD been so depressing though. #WarOnWomen.

Wearywithteens · 08/03/2019 18:20

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DoingTheBestICan · 08/03/2019 18:17

Diolch yn fawr, just ordered myself a t shirt

WaddIelikeapenguin · 08/03/2019 18:01

www.standingforwomen.com/shop

[ooh pens!!!]

DoingTheBestICan · 08/03/2019 17:43

Where can I buy an #adulthumanfemale t shirt?

Thethingswedoforlove · 08/03/2019 16:44

Grimbles are you Richard herring?

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 08/03/2019 16:39

Why thank you hipster Grin I really really wanted to use it on Twitter too but don't want my accounts linking.

Mner2019 · 08/03/2019 16:17

I am wearing my #adulthumanfemale t shirt. Love it.

hipsterfun · 08/03/2019 11:54

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles

Most excellent username!

userschmoozer · 08/03/2019 11:44

I went to the supermarket wearing my Fair Play t shirt and left a trail of leaflets. I'm going into town later Grin

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 08/03/2019 11:41

I have left FPFW leaflets in pretty much all the toilets at my local hospital, in lots of shopping trollies at Waitrose and on top of the Metro papers and seats on the bus.

DH has peak transed some of his workmates with what sounds like an epic rant - he is fully expecting to be called in by HR on Monday Shock

One of my DCs has done their bit and is in the local paper (possibly one of my finest and proudest parenting moments Grin)

R0wantrees · 08/03/2019 10:39

Sharing this important declaration which will be lanched on 15th March.

Summary:

'Declaration on Women’s Sex Based Rights

The Declaration outlines current international laws and policies on women’s rights and how they are being threatened by organisations that are trying to change the definition of woman. It reaffirms existing women’s rights and suggests ways that states should promote and protect them. It was drafted with input from women internationally. Launching in March 2019, the Declaration is a clear call to law and policy makers to retain the sex-based biological definition of woman.

The Declaration on Women’s Sex Based Rights is a statement on the importance of keeping the current sex based definition of woman.

Women’s rights, set out in the 1979 Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW) and subsequent international agreements, are based on our sex, defined by the UN as “the physical and biological characteristics that distinguish males from females”[1].

In recent years organisations have been quietly trying to replace the idea of biological sex with the idea of “gender identity” in human rights documents; and to include men who say they have a female “gender identity” in the word “woman”.

Many women’s rights are related to our biologically female bodies e.g. the right to abortion, and maternal rights. Other women’s rights are aimed at eliminating discrimination against women in public life e.g. women’s rights to education, political representation, work, equal pay. Further women’s rights are to protect us against violence or harmful practices e.g. rape, and FGM.

A key way women and girls are denied rights is by gender or sex role stereotyping (e.g. girls should help at home while boys go to school). The UN recognises this is harmful and works for “the elimination of prejudices and customary and all other practices which are based on the idea of the inferiority or the superiority of either of the sexes or on stereotyped roles for men and women.”[2] The Declaration raises concern that the term “gender identity” reinforces sex role stereotyping because it is only possible to have a “gender identity” by choosing between sex role stereotypes for men and women.

In recent years some governments have been substituting “gender identity” for biological sex in law and policy, and including men who say they have a female “gender identity” in the word “woman”. This enables these men to access spaces and services set up for women and girls. This includes single sex victim support services, single sex sport, women’s shortlists designed to increase women’s participation in political and public life, scholarships and prizes for women, single sex toilets, changing rooms and sleeping areas aimed at protecting the safety, privacy and dignity of women and girls. Using “gender identity” instead of biological sex threatens maternal rights, women’s right to assemble and organise without including men, and data collection on violence against women and girls,. Furthermore, “gender identity” is being used to “transition” girls who do not conform to sex stereotypes."
www.womensdeclaration.com/

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