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Why is Harrop suddenly being measured on Twitter?

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flakeitoff · 07/03/2019 17:12

(I followed him a little while ago when the GMC thread was started here and he's still on my Twitter)

"Although I am someone who is neither an athlete nor a sports scientist, I can appreciate that there is a need to take a fair, evidence-based and rational approach re: the inclusion of transgender and non-binary individuals in sports, particularly at the elite level ...

... there is a need to ensure that sporting competition is as open and as inclusive as possible, for all athletes of all backgrounds, and an understandable desire to see that competitive sports of all types are organised in a fair and safe way ...

... however, what I see is people opportunistically + irresponsibly using this issue to invalidate and delegitimise the womanhood of trans women, dismissing established facts + evidence, + ignoring decades of successful trans inclusion in sports at the highest levels ...

... and obviously, whilst not at all of the concerns and points raised thus far are driven by transphobia, it is clear that many are. This is simultaneously both disappointing and unsurprising, given the current climate in public discourse ...

... as an unqualified commentator, my personal take on the matter is almost entirely immaterial; but, what I do believe is that these matters ought to be handled on a sport-by-sport + case-by-case basis, by the relevant regulatory body, with a focus on fairness + safety for all."

Since when was Harrop interested in fairness and safety for all?!

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SonicVersusGynaephobia · 08/03/2019 11:17

He said, after his break in NZ, he was going to stay out of it. His future as a doctor depends on it.

But he just can't help himself. The medical community must be gobsmacked at his stupidity (both on his inability to tell men and women apart, and also his ability to keep his mouth shut on an issue which does not even affect him.

Let's just ignore him. He's irrelevant. Leave the GMC to come to whatever conclusion they feel is best.

FemalePersonator · 08/03/2019 09:51

Perhaps Fanny will take up golfing with all the free time he will have now?

FemalePersonator · 08/03/2019 09:51

I trust you will learn a valuable lesson from this Adrian. A challenging yet important and unforgettable lesson.

Yes, Adrian. A valuable lesson.

RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 09:47

Oh my god, Dr taken off, twitter account locked, no more abusive tweets.

He must be a doctor then, I'm shocked! I literally thought he couldn't have been, but he has obviously been reprimanded for his behaviour.

Thank you to everyone who complained to the GMC about this man.

I trust you will learn a valuable lesson from this Adrian. A challenging yet important and unforgettable lesson.

You bellend.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 08/03/2019 09:26

He's been told follow GMC social media guidance.

FemalePersonator · 08/03/2019 07:37

If anyone thinks Fanny has had a Damascene conversion, they are sadly mistaken.

He is more circumspect about his public misogyny because he is under investigation - not because he has changed how he thinks and feels.

FemalePersonator · 08/03/2019 07:33

as inclusive as possible

Weasel words.

howmanybiscuits · 08/03/2019 01:47

He's also not calling himself Dr any more on twitter. It's gone from his bio and his twitter handle.

This isn't anything to do with him feeling the tide is changing. He's been told his job is at stake if he carries on, I'm certain of it.

There is no way someone with such a large ego would drop Dr from his social media unless forced to do so.

Noname99 · 07/03/2019 23:01

seeking = selling

Noname99 · 07/03/2019 23:00

slippery - couldn’t agree more!
Most people either don’t give a shit about the erosion of women’s rights or genuinely support most of the trans arguments because toilets and changing rooms don’t bother them, they don’t need, use or have experience of refuges and rape crisis etc. and they don’t want to discriminate or be bigoted and are generally liberal and live and let live. So people can generally feel neutral or even go with the ‘don’t side with nasty bigoted TERF/feminists’ for all those issues. But nearly everyone can see the blatantly fucking obvious fact that men ‘competing’ against women is unfair. Insane stupid ‘on the edge’ scientists can produce random ‘studies’ that say ‘there is no advantage’ but people believe their own lived reality .....the boys were faster/stronger than them at school and no amount of wordsmithing, gaslighting bollocks ‘science’ nor ranting trans advocates will persuade them otherwise. And Harrop knows this. As does Lees and the other more intelligent trans avocates so they will be silent or balanced on this issue because they are going to lose this one. Money talks - if people stop watching women’s sport then sponsorship dries up. If there is less media exposure for women’s sport , participation in women’s sports drops and then the multi-million pound business of seeking women’s sports equipment and clothing drops ...... money talks!

MrsFogi · 07/03/2019 22:48

It's such a pity Dr H peaked too soon - he could have really helped with peak-transing the nation shoulder to shoulder with Rachel McK at the moment.

BitOfFun · 07/03/2019 22:30

Nauticant Grin

McTufty · 07/03/2019 22:10

Thanks nosering

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 07/03/2019 22:06

Wow. Since when did he identify as an unqualified commentator?

nauticant · 07/03/2019 21:12

I think his Mum has seized his phone and is posting something more sensible in his name in the hope of reducing the damage to his career.

NoseringGirl · 07/03/2019 21:11

I thought he said he was done with talking about these issues in Twitter?
McTufty it was mentioned on the last thread that he could try to use discussion of him as evidence that he was being unreasonably harassed.

McTufty · 07/03/2019 21:04

I’m probably stupid but why does discussing it here affect the investigation?

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/03/2019 20:13

The investigation will be concluding very soon now. I really do think it would be a good idea to not discuss this any further for the time being.

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 07/03/2019 20:09

India's jumped ship as well with regards to the sports thing. I think it's a bridge too far it is really ridiculous and nobody can possibly defend it and if you want to still be considered as a sane person then I don't think you can defend trans women competing against biological females in sports

Whatisthisfuckery · 07/03/2019 20:03

He’s grounded, innit.

SlipperyLizard · 07/03/2019 19:34

Perhaps he’s seen that the tide is turning - only a fraction of the general public believe that TWAW in the way that the TRAs mean (like me 6 months ago, they assume it is talking about a social convention of using preferred pronouns etc). The sports thing has really blown wide open that they mean it literally - perhaps he thinks if he’s measured on the sports thing and if not too many people notice Rachel M (not likely given the continued media exposure that RM is getting), it will all blow over and he can get back to undermining women’s sex based rights in other areas.

Of course, he’s wrong - because now the sunlight is shining on this issue, the whole house of cards will inevitably come falling down.

howmanybiscuits · 07/03/2019 18:18

Since he realised the GMC were watching him

He's known they're watching them for ages, he was too arrogant to stop bullying women.

What's changed, I suspect, is that the GMC have spelled out to him in no uncertain terms that he risks losing the chance to ever qualify as a doctor if he doesn't STFU.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 07/03/2019 18:03

Honestly think we should stop talking about him until the investigation concludes.

I agree

donquixotedelamancha · 07/03/2019 18:01

I wonder if it's because as a medical doctor he'd make himself look even more ridiculous than usual if he pretended that there is no difference between male and female physiology

That might well be the simple truth. Up until now, his TWAW has been defensible as speaking about social convention. I think many medical professionals would take issue if made statements like RMk.

LangCleg · 07/03/2019 17:52

Can't reverse ferret now, dear. The horse bolted long since.

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