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Opting out of trans and LGB lessons

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SparklySneakers · 07/03/2019 17:00

My daughter is objecting to her school making her do LGBT sessions this month. She does not want to go to school for that week. She doesn't see why she has to learn about it, believes you can love whoever you want to love, be whoever you want to be but that you can't change sex.
Can see object or rather me on her behalf? Or maybe a better question is how I can get her to make the most of these sessions.

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SparklySneakers · 09/03/2019 15:28

My point is Hmm how far do they go to make sure nobody is left out of their inclusivity discussions? Where do they draw the line? My examples were extreme but furries are a thing as pp pointed out. That's not illegal so what is if someone is into that? Are they welcomed into the inclusivity club?

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/03/2019 15:22

Have you not see the barely concealed paedophilia groups on twitter trying to insert themselves into the debate?

EyesAreNeverClosing · 09/03/2019 15:21

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/03/2019 15:16

Is there a K for Kink? S&M for, well S&M, F for furries etc etc etc. It’s gone beyond sexual preference to sexual preference 😉

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/03/2019 15:04

And as for Q (and all the rest). How does that fit into LGB? In fact surely it should be L&G - you sleep with men, you sleep with women (or both).

Vixxxy · 09/03/2019 12:56

It annoys me that LGB and T are lumped together in this kind of thing. As I have no issues at all with my kids being taught about same sex relationships and such, but I massively object to them basically being told that which stereotypes they follow dictates their sex, and its easy to just take a few tablets and become the opposite sex Hmm

DSDs school didn't even tell us this kind of thing was on, seemed to be some kind of talk by mermaids or some other such lobby group. She came back baffled of quite why they wee being taught lies.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/03/2019 12:33

Ask where he got his training (and try not to tell him to ask for a refund)

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SparklySneakers · 09/03/2019 12:32

I disliked him on sight. In fact he said a proper assessment was necessary due to her liking school, having friends and erm, reciting a 5 digit number sequence. I was so angry. I'd gone armed with a long list of difficulties she has but he wasn't interested.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/03/2019 12:27

Oh a creepy one eh?

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SparklySneakers · 09/03/2019 12:20

He was an odious man. Very unprofessional.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/03/2019 12:18

whatbrheybjace ‘Just isn’t true’ 🙄

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/03/2019 12:17

Yup - I’m no expert but we did study spectrum when I did psychology as it whatbrheybjace said isn’t true (and my DB - spectrum - is highly numerate and had loads of friends growing up)

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SparklySneakers · 09/03/2019 12:16

That's exactly what I thought. I was really angry. School are keeping an eye and I'm just trying to help her as much as I can.

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JessicaWakefieldSVH · 09/03/2019 12:12

That CAHMS person is an idiot that clearly knows nothing about how autism presents in girls. How irritating. My DD hasa diagnosis. She has plenty of friends, she just doesn’t have them come over very often at all. She is highly intelligent, high functioning, and can easily recall numbers etc and got an A* in Maths. The person who said that to you hasn’t got a clue about autism.

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SparklySneakers · 09/03/2019 12:09

CAHMS gate keeper said she couldn't be on the spectrum as has friends Hmm and can't have ADD as can recall a sequence of numbers Hmm They said she didn't require their services. She is very much like me and after reading up on her traits I realised that they explained my entire childhood so I'm probably ASD/ADD. Her sister has lots of traits too but in different ways. Scatterbrain who struggles with relationships and sensory overload vs deeply focused obsessive, struggles to control emotions and has food texture and texture issues.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/03/2019 12:02

I was a terrible child for having facts and arguments. My poor parents. It comes from being the smallest in a large family!

R0wantrees · 09/03/2019 11:53

I had a very strong sense of fairness and honesty.

YY as a child I also railed and challenged but I'd been encouraged to ask 'why?', think for myself find out the answers.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 09/03/2019 10:47

Me too! I was notorious as a child for railing against infairness and people telling lies. I would go ballistic and throw a fit (when I was very little). I had a very strong sense of fairness and honesty.

Bowlofbabelfish · 09/03/2019 10:16

If she is on the spectrum, this is an autistic nightmare: having to interact with people who are saying such incorrect things and not being able to name them as incorrect.

I’m not autistic (although it runs strongly in my family) but I recognise this. It’s something I think of as *an offence against rightness^ and it got me into an awful lot of trouble in my own schooldays :(

For someone on the spectrum it must be a nightmare

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SparklySneakers · 09/03/2019 09:26

I had a reply from HT. She can opt out of assembly and tutor period but no guarantees that there won't be LGBTQ+ content in other sessions throughout the week. I'm encouraging her to go and ask questions. She's asked me to write some down to ask but I'll get her to do her own.

I'm not happy with the TQ+ aspect at all.

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BoomBoomsCousin · 08/03/2019 18:36

The school toilet thing isn't so much about the impact assessment as a legal obligation to have single-sex toilet and washing facilities. An impact assessment wouldn't be a way out of that obligation.

If the school has no impact assessment on file for other policies that infringe on previously sex-segregated areas, could they be challenged to remedy their error rather than compounding it by continuing to ignore their legal obligations?

These are probably more areas for you if you feel up to it, bit heavy for a 12 year old! Can you run for governor?

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 08/03/2019 18:33

If she is on the spectrum, this is an autistic nightmare: having to interact with people who are saying such incorrect things and not being able to name them as incorrect.

I second this. Not autistic myself, but teen daughter and husband are. We got some... interesting feedback from DD RE teacher! She cannot handle what she says are ‘lies’ or things stated as fact that are not. She will argue and argue and argue. If a teacher ever tried to tell her humans can change sex, well I would almost pity them. She’s also very bright and articulate, and gender non-conforming, so you can imagine how this sort of shit goes down with her!

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