NZ Chief Scientific Advisor says there are more than two sexes

Wow
Both to the science bollocks

And to Balldemorte fund raising for beauty pagent.

Surely both are satire?

Oh the humanity...😑

Sadly, I have in the past had colleagues who were quite competent in their own area of science (physical sciences) who were biblical fundamentalists and believed God created the world in 6 days.

I know at least three biologists who are young Earth creationists (one of them in NZ) but they all come from very religious backgrounds, the NZ one is a Mormon, one has a West African Evangelical background and the third is a Wee Free.The latter admitted that she applied for the PhD studentship at a prestigious Scottish university to be able to argue pro-Creationisms with the authority the Doctor title would give her.

Lovely response to the confused agronomist:

"Is ChiefSciAdvisor a spectrum too? With actual science experts at one end and potatoes at the other?"

twitter.com/HelenCh85283587/status/1103778337011523586

And where is Goldacre in all this?

Indeed. Come on then, Ben.

Yet inner lady souls make no more sense to me than watered down to nothingness stuff. How did we get to the stage of taking this stuff seriously?

However, to cheer us up...

(I seem to remember Robert Webb is GC.)

And where is Goldacre in all this?

Maybe he’s only up to the job if it’s homeopaths or whatever. I mean, what are they going to do? Angrily shake a tiny bottle of fuck all at you, is what.

so want to put this into the Bad Science (Ben Goldacre) forums but I would be whipped to within an inch of my life for being a bigot and a transphobic trf.*

Really? What's wrong with them?

Good point, nauticant, they didn't. They may have felt quietly sad at the thought we were all going to hell, but they didn't try to coerce our speech.

Sadly, I have in the past had colleagues who were quite competent in their own area of science (physical sciences) who were biblical fundamentalists and believed God created the world in 6 days.

Out of interest, did any of them think that us non-believers should be coerced into saying we believe in the literal truth of the Bible?

Holy crap on a cracker, how can a trained biochemist say this? Is the main qualification for being NZ CSA that you will say whatever is politically expedient?

terryleather Aunt Lydia 😂 she actually looks a bit like her!

Chief Scientific Advisor recommending Wikipedia? Are we sure it is the CSI speaking there?

I genuinely lolled at the idea of anyone recommending WIKI to prove a point.

I hate to break this to you but males who think they are women are not actually women, marginalised or not Aunt Lydia Jackie, hth!

So the PURPOSE OF WOMENS DAY is to listen to transwomen. Ffs.

This is the woman who wrote the tweet that this chief scientific officer was asked to respond to. This is what she focuses on, on IWD, as a woman who sees hundreds of DV survivors a year:

JACKIE CLARK – The Aunties charity founder

I'm very sceptical about IWD. I think if there is a purpose to it, it needs to be to raise the voices of women who aren't usually heard, like transgender women.
It can't just be for white, cisgender, straight, middle-class women, it must be for all women. It can't just be for show. I just don't know that IWD is terribly useful. What I see happening is that everything is so gendered.
Safe spaces need to be genuinely created for all women to achieve true equality.

Just like to point out, Jackie is a white ‘c*sgender ( her terminology ) middle class woman herself. She likes to think she’s some kind of spokesperson for other groups though.

RE the fundraiser you linked to OP

Dresses, shoes, jewelry (sic) all costs quite a fair deal of cash.

You don't say!

so want to put this into the Bad Science (Ben Goldacre) forums but I would be whipped to within an inch of my life for being a bigot and a transphobic t*rf.

This is the science forum that helped debunk the MMR/autism scandal.

Well, what a post to wake up to on International Women's Day!
Still, thanks for the smiles Millytant.

Wikipedia isn’t a bad source, it’s actually pretty good 80% of the time.
www.livescience.com/32950-how-accurate-is-wikipedia.html

The trick is having the nous to cross-check for that 20%.

If you’re a student you should be using peer-reviewed, academic articles, as much as anything for the practice in finding and reading them.

I used to teach my students to use Wikipedia as you would an encyclopaedia; to get a good overview of a topic and pick up some of the relevant search terms which they could use moving onto more scholarly articles.

I’m not fussed that the Chief Science Advisor said check Wikipedia; that’s good advice for ordinary people.

But she should be embarrassed til the day she dies by her deliberate abandonment of actual scientific fact in the face of ideological culture wars.

I suppose you could interpret her tweet as more subtle; “look it up. See what bullshit “sex is a spectrum” really is.”

Being very intelligent and very good at a small limited area of science is no guarantee that you won't be completely barking mad in other areas of your life

Exactly.

Sadly, I have in the past had colleagues who were quite competent in their own area of science (physical sciences) who were biblical fundamentalists and believed God created the world in 6 days.

Being very intelligent and very good at a small limited area of science is no guarantee that you won't be completely barking mad in other areas of your life.

The fault here would appear to lie with whoever appointed someone with such narrow expertise and no interest in critical thinking to the post of government chief science officer.

This scientifically illiterate wokeness is everywhere:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/06/testosterone-biological-sex-sports-bodies

Oh and Wahine means: adult human female. That auntie can piss off with her appropriating our words.

Oh dear lord, well this is hilarious. The chief science advisor herself is here in this article. Along with the ridiculous woman from The Aunties who just has to centre transwomen on International Women’s Day ffs

i.stuff.co.nz/national/111101587/prominent-kiwi-wahine-explain-what-international-womens-day-means-to-them