McKinnon targeting Kelly Holmes

The stress of being in the middle of a media storm (even a mini one) can't be underestimated. Especially when you're being labelled by pretty loud and aggressive voices as something that you're not, like a transphobe or a bigot. They might be retired sports women (and bonafide sheroes) but the implications for them personally and for their families are still so significant. The trans lobby has some powerful allies and some feeble enablers, and that's a potent combination.

The same goes for the feminists who are really putting themselves out there, putting themselves in the firing line, and doing a lot of the dirty work. The stuff that might make us gasp a little but that makes a difference and has impact.

These women are chipping away and they're making a huge difference.

I think what I'm trying to say is that I can't put into words just how astonished and proud I am of these women and it seems like a good day to mention and appreciate it. This takes guts. Cheers to you all.

Thank you for that clip of Kelly Amoregentlemanlikemanner.

I don't follow athletics, particularly, but that made my eyes smart.

The word is inspiring. It absolutely is.

Kelly, and athletes like her, inspire women and girls.

There is not a girl or woman on the planet who is inspired by an artificially weakened man.

Thanks Kelly.

Thank you! Wow those women all ran really fast I'm always amazed when I watch any top athletes they seem super human.

Kelly was double amazing obv, what an incredible achievement.

Meagain - just click on the "watch on youtube" button, and it'll open youtube in a separate window and you can watch it there (or click on the blue link in the MN thead here rather than on the image itself). I think it's some sort of copyright thing so that they track use on youtube, rather than allowing it to be watched on 3rd party sites like MN.

Make be the BBC has finally realised it's a waste of their listeners time to hear more from the Peddling Liar.

Bit of a shame though....RM has done a great job in undermining their own cause and also disputing their own thesis - because it's blatantly obvious you are talking bollocks (however forcefully you choose to ejaculate your output).

The clip is blocked for me :(

It says the ioc doesn't want me to watch it!

Thanks for the fabulous clip of Kelly Holmes winning the 1500.

Kelly, Sharron, Martina, all your supporters - I salute you all.

It’s the projection I find fascinating

“That’s not how words work”

“Science doesn’t care about your feelings”

I’m not convinced that Titania McGrath hasn’t just found a new avator

Oh, Ewe - that is priceless!

Yes, I'm absolutely loving seeing our fabulous, strong sportswomen stand up against this - and refusing to be bullied into submission.

Martina, Sharron, Dame Kelly - I raise a glass to you tonight, on IWD, and say all power to you

Absolute winners, all of you.

Ewe that is priceless

Ha ha, for some reason I've been thinking of Windsor Davis and "oh dear, how sad, NEVER MIND" in connection with some of the absurd displays of hurty feels, and lo and behold someone has turned it into a gif for me.

And finally the BBC does something sensible. Away and find someone else who wants to debate that side of things but who isn't a colossal bully and misogynist please, Auntie.

amore thanks for the clip, what an awesome woman Kelly is, and hard as nails

Thank you EweSurname, that has just put the cherry on top of the cake that has been my day

Is it wise to be tweeting about this?

Don’t know about deplatformed but

mobile.twitter.com/you_know_nuttin/status/1104059546719473669

m.youtube.com/watch?v=nAyVaHoX6YM#fauxfullscreen

I can’t see it. Funnily enough I can’t see many replies to their tweets at all 🤔

Are Specialised still looking into the hole they've dug for themselves?

I think Thomas's comment demonstrates exactly the problem we have. I have heard people who are not quite as au fait with trans politics as we are use the term "trans woman" to refer to a woman transitioning to male, and the term "trans man'" to refer to a man transitioning to female.

Thomas probably imagines that Rachel McKinnon is a woman who has been taking testosterone to transition to male, and that other female athletes are complaining about the unfairness of allowing McKinnon to continue to compete against women. He hasn't understood that McKinnon is a man identifying as female.

And you know what? I think this confusion is deliberate on the part of TRAs. That insistence on not "deadnaming", not "misgendering" is part of an intentional strategy to hide from the average unengaged person what is happening here.

heh @ thomas what a dimboid

GOOD POINT THOMAS YOU CLEVER MAN.

I had a look at that and the comments earlier... almost felt like signing up so I could point out that 'Dr' in this case doesn't mean what they may think.

I read that comment too and thought oh lord.

People are still not getting it.

Even when they read an article all about it, it's still not sinking in.

And I realise Thomas might be a little slow on the uptake, but there are lots of people who simply don't believe it. It's just impossible to them, that it could happen. So they're reading with one eye closed.

Still, hopefully, that is changing.

Oh Thomas...