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McKinnon targeting Kelly Holmes

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Sexnotgender · 07/03/2019 09:42

McKinnon is going after Kelly Holmes now and has tweeted @iamspecialized who Kelly has a sponsorship deal with Angry

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NotBadConsidering · 07/03/2019 11:08

www.liv-cycling.com/gb/about-liv

This is Liv, the female specific brand of Giant, if anyone is looking for a bike that’s not a Specialized.

andyoldlabour · 07/03/2019 11:06

After looking at a few twitter feeds on this thread, I came across this obnoxious person Anthony Watson, who proclaims himself to be the "lead LGBT advsor to UK Labour".
He is accusing Sharron Davis and Martina of having far right views.
He clearly hates women.

twitter.com/AnthonyWatson/status/1103573234983886848

BettyDuMonde · 07/03/2019 11:03

I’m looking forward to the inevitable end point if they throw Kelly under the bus. As we know trans activists are never appeased, so we can look forward to Specialized being branded ‘transphobic’ for marketing bikes with smaller proportions as ‘Womens’ Bikes’.

And every other cycle company on earth, of course.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 07/03/2019 11:01

Thanks for that email, just written to them too. This is all very odd.

nauticant · 07/03/2019 11:00

It's amazing how many big brands have no clear grasp of their social media presence. Companies have little idea what it's all about or how to do it properly, and often appoint 20-30-somethings who end up having considerable latitude in being able to use the company's social media presence as a platform for their own political views.

Needmoresleep · 07/03/2019 10:59

I have fired off an email to

[email protected]

My guess is, having worked for UK offshoots of American firms, that people there roll their eyes at times at the inability of their woke Californian colleagues to understand markets other than their own. They are making the same mistake as the BBC, by assuming that the Yoof market is made up of cool kids, who support the TRA approach. This is not so. Sporty yoof who might spend a lot on a bike, know about sport, admire people like Dame Kelly, and don't like the idea of losing fairness in women's sport either as a participant or supporter.

So they may welcome a few good emails to send on, that will be waiting for their US colleagues when they come into the office.

FemalePersonator · 07/03/2019 10:58

Specialized are getting slaughtered on Twitter. Good.

Keep peaktransing people, McKinnon.

lucy101101 · 07/03/2019 10:55

Am off to email Specialized... and ask them about their 'values'..

[email protected]

NotBadConsidering · 07/03/2019 10:53

I’ll put a fiver on “double down panicked bluster world salad” please. Something about “we need to consider both sides, transphobia is never acceptable blah blah blah”.

MagicMix · 07/03/2019 10:52

This is so cringeworthy. Don't you know who you're talking about, Rachel? Though I suppose if you think you've got the right to lecture and patronise Martina Navratilova your head is already the size of a small planet.

I was actually thinking of getting a Specialized bike soon, but thankfully there are other brands available.

nauticant · 07/03/2019 10:51

This might help explain what's going on:

twitter.com/ooffydarls/status/1103587240255606784

Popchyk · 07/03/2019 10:49

Yes, I think the sponsor is aware of the public views on the matter.

I will offer odds on what they do next:

Ignore the situation and hope to hell it goes away - Evens

Delete their reply 2-1

Double down with panicked bluster word salad 25-1

Announce that they are sacking Kelly and replacing her with McKinnon as brand ambassador 2.5 million - 1

Any takers?

BettyDuMonde · 07/03/2019 10:46

McKinnon is going after DAME Kelly? Double olympic champion, founder of the Dame Kelly Holmes Trust?

The Dame Kelly Holmes Trust runs a number of programmes for disadvantaged young people throughout the UK including Get On Track, AQA Unlocking Potential, Sport For Change and Sporting Champions. Young people have been helped by the trust to gain permanent employment despite various difficulties including criminal records, special needs and lack of school qualifications. Other vulnerable people supported by the Trust in 2016 included people leaving care, and young women at risk of sexual exploitation
The charity is funded by a combination of grants, trusts, corporate partners and fundraising.
The Dame Kelly Holmes Trust has achieved a greater and longer-lasting impact than various other sports stars' foundations in the UK’

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dame_Kelly_Holmes_Trust

McKinnon needs to cock off.

Amoregentlemanlikemanner · 07/03/2019 10:46

to do my bit, I rang specialised and let them know that this is just a campaign to get them to drop sponsorship of anyone who disagrees with this campaigner.

NotBadConsidering · 07/03/2019 10:43

You do wonder if it is some massive social experiment as part of some psychological research and McKinnon is actually some sort of genius to point out the insanity of it all, but then you look at the history of civilisation and misogyny and McKinnon’s actions fit so neatly in line with it all that you have to just accept it at face value.

Love the replies on that Specialized thread, they’re getting slaughtered.

Sexnotgender · 07/03/2019 10:41

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EweSurname · 07/03/2019 10:39

It's coz she's black and a lesbian

Is she a lesbian?

Video of glitter family be found in this post: 4thwavenow.com/2017/05/14/mtof-tells-trans-kids-to-dump-moms-on-mothers-day-and-join-the-glitter-queer-family-of-adult-trans-activists/

littlbrowndog · 07/03/2019 10:36

Omg the cyclist actually said that that the cyclist gives up on Sharron
Below what the cyclist said about Sharron

“” She made her bed
Whatever legacy she had will be gone the internet doesn’t forget And she did this to herself”

Haha what an idiot. Imagine actually tweeting that
Unbelievable

LangCleg · 07/03/2019 10:36

Do you have a link to the video where RMK told children to run away from home?

Here is the 4th Wave article about it:

4thwavenow.com/2017/05/14/mtof-tells-trans-kids-to-dump-moms-on-mothers-day-and-join-the-glitter-queer-family-of-adult-trans-activists/

Here is the video:

This is the quote:

I want you to know that’s it’s ok to walk away from unsupportive or disrespectful or even abusive parents. And I want to give you hope that you can find what we call your glitter family.

The whole thing was done to coincide with Mother's Day.

FemalePersonator · 07/03/2019 10:36

Someone please remind me who McKinnon's sponsors are? A Google search turns up nothing.

According to McKinnon's tweets, they have two full-time coaches and a full-time sports nutritionist so I would guess that sponsors are needed for that financial load.

Thanks!

Saltovinegar · 07/03/2019 10:35

Specialized may have just scored a massive own goal. Hopefully Garmin won't.

In the words of Birdseye.....Potato!

Nuffaluff · 07/03/2019 10:32

I suspect McKinnon went for her, believing her to be the weaker link.

Agreed. The tactic is to hound her and get her to make an official apology.

Blueblueyellow · 07/03/2019 10:31

This is getting more bizzare as the days go on.RM is a total narcissist. Why are this company's listening to that misogynist? Is it because Trans is the new woke buzz word? And saying people could think Martina Navratilova is trans, laughable! What an idiot. Can't wait till the tide turns.

Sexnotgender · 07/03/2019 10:31

Surely McKinnon MUST be a feminist plant?

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Popchyk · 07/03/2019 10:31

The people running Twitter accounts for certain companies seem to be pretty bloody stupid. We have seen it so many times.

Either don't reply to stuff like that, or a "Thanks, we'll look into it" at the very most.

An individual diving in to take what he/she considers to be a moral stand on the word of a complete stranger is utterly foolish. And unprofessional.

And you will then blunder in to all sorts of stuff that you don't even understand. "This is not representative of our brand values". What isn't representative? Explain yourself.

Idiocy.

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