Tavistock’s Experimentation with Puberty Blockers: Scrutinizing the Evidence

Really, sackrifice? Do you think it was your comment that wasn't 'civil', or are we not allowed to discuss Tranzwear packers for under 5 yr olds?

'not in the spirit of civil debate'.

Interesting.

So much food for thought here.

That early mermaids website actually sounded like a lot of sense.

Why the heck did anyone report if?

#NoDebate

Its a whole other level of disturbing. I thought I couldn’t be shocked anymore.

Sackrifice, sometimes it takes them a while to answer queries re deletions but it is strange for yours to be removed. Why the heck did anyone report if?

I got a post deleted yesterday posting the same.

I've asked how it breaks talk guidelines but I don't think I've had it clarified yet.

MhairiV

'Penis packers' for three and four-year-olds have been the subject of threads before. It's absolutely abhorrent.

And they look like mini versions of male penises.

A lot of them are made by the same companys who make prepubescent sex dolls, (often only the torso).

It really does feel as though Pandoras box has been opened, and there is no one in authority who can close the lid.

I personally don't understand how these companies can't just be shut down.

twitter.com/Mum3Sun/status/1105085747546198017

There is this from the Sun too.

That is grim. I have no words for it... sick

I saw this thread on Twitter and wanted to share - this seemed like the most appropriate thread given the topic. I feel ill.

twitter.com/4th_wavenow/status/1104427039082405888?s=21

This weeks news is bogged down with the upcoming Brexit votes. Maybe they are getting ducks in a row, or ferreting further.

Or may be because Telegraph already covered it, so no longer a ‘new’ story for the Sunday’s.

Possible. Or possible they are waiting for something more. There's been a sense of something bigger brewing for a while. Or they sitting on the story for maximum impact given there's quite a lot of news this week...

There was a Grey-Thompson article today.

no sign of the Times article this weekend

could they be subject to an injunction?

Hippocratic Oath or Hypocritical Oath?

'Trans stories need to be told'

I'm posting this here simply because I repeatedly feel the end point is being sold but not the true story, warts and all.

This isn't always a fairy tale where people live happily ever after.

Tell those stories among adults. Tackle the restrictive stereotypes for children. Support mental health constantly.

www.kickstarter.com/projects/872255010/raven-wild-an-illustrated-lgbtq-childrens-book

This post is for anyone working at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust who has been feeling pressurised into conformity over issues relating to experiments on transgender children, claims of satanic ritual abuse or any other concerns.

You are not alone.

History is being made. Now is the time to step up to the plate and make your voice heard.

I would like to remind you about the Milgram experiment, an experiment that will be well known to all of you.

I would like to invite you to watch this archival video

Watching it will be a return to the early days of your training in psychology and mental health issues, but it is very important to revisit the basics from time to time.

As history is being made, what kind of "teacher" are you?

Are you one of those who stand up for your concerns for others and refuse to continue with the experiment or are you one of those who continue to conform and to do what you are told even if it harms others?

Take your time to reflect upon your concerns. Ask yourself "what kind of person am I?". Do the right thing. Make your concerns heard. Ensure that, as history is being made, you step up and do the right thing.

Gender Identity Disorders in infancy.....

WTAF? This is insane.

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6790463/Beware-boob-job-clinics-dont-mention-risks-implant-related-cancer.html
Still fancy a boob job? Beware of hard-sell tactics... and no mention of implant-related cancer: Mail on Sunday reporter who went undercover to test the ethics of Britain's breast surgeons delivers her damning verdict

Not trans. But interesting to see the hard sell and lack of transparency here.

I take it schools are informing children of this when they are supporting transitioning and Mermaids are also upfront about this.

Timeline re Susie Green's involvement with Mermaids here

These pages are from 2000. I understood that it was under Susie Green that the big push for children to be recognised as transgender happened. When did she take over?

Susie Green's child would have been 6 in 2000.

Just saying.

This is, to some extent, an organised attack on thinking. Language is policed and dissent and sceptical, rational thought cannot be permitted

This

That's interesting OldCrone.
Three years ago apparently, but she has been involved in Mermaids for much longer than that.
m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/author/susie-green

From the old Mermaids site:
Gender Identity Disorders in infancy, childhood and adolescence are complex and have varied causes: in the majority of cases the eventual outcome will be homosexuality or bisexuality, but often there will be a heterosexual outcome as some gender issues can be caused by a bereavement, a dysfunctional family life, or (rarely) by abuse. Only a small proportion of cases will result in a transsexual outcome.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000622035655/www.mermaids.freeuk.com/gidca.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20000622035655/www.mermaids.freeuk.com/gidca.html

please never forget: a gender variant child or teenager will not necessarily grow up to be a transgendered adult.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000617020706/www.mermaids.freeuk.com/intro.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20000617020706/www.mermaids.freeuk.com/intro.html

These pages are from 2000. I understood that it was under Susie Green that the big push for children to be recognised as transgender happened. When did she take over?

Hrtft but BLOODY HELL:
Transvestism is seen as more common amongst men but women wear trousers so often it is hard to tell if a woman is in fact a transvestite