Bloody hell BBC

Gay club? No no, they’re not gay, despite wanting to marry a man, they are just totally female.

FFS why are these young trans girls wearing ridiculously heavy makeup, I wouldn’t let my 9yo actual daughter do it 🙄 experimenting sure, but that? Plus duck face pouting? No

Girls in skirts a cm above the knee-bad.

Boys in a gay club at 3am having money thrown at them - good

Excellent letter Bernard. I've started writing one too - I get too angry to write anything coherent!

FFS why are these young trans girls wearing ridiculously heavy makeup, I wouldn’t let my 9yo actual daughter do it 🙄 experimenting sure, but that? Plus duck face pouting? No

That’s not what being a girl means

merrymouse yes, it appears the school is going out on a very questionable limb here, as the rest of the quote makes plain:

although the children have had "mixed reactions", teachers have tackled the issue "head on".
"They will say things like, 'Do you remember Anthony? Do you remember how upset he could get, and how angry he could be? Don't you think Autumn is happier?', and explaining Autumn is who she wants to be," Ms Norris says.

This is shocking.

Indeed Floral
The article even says that Autumn's mum is writing a book about their journey...

I've complained about the article about the 9 year old child here:

www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/

It's so irresponsible of the BBC to run it - what are they thinking?

text of my complaint below, editing slightly to comply with MN modding rules (blimey replacing correct pronouns with Autumn's name makes the text clunky)

The article itself contains the following information:

'The NHS says most treatment at this stage is psychological and not surgical, because the majority of children with suspected gender dysphoria do not have the condition once they reach puberty'

It is very likely that in a few years Autumn will decide that Autumn does not have gender dysphoria and does not feel compelled to comply with typically feminine stereotypes.

Given what's at stake for Autumn if Autumn does persist (drug treatments with harmful side effects, surgical intervention which could render Aumtum sterile), the BBC should not be doing anything to make it harder for Autumn to make the best decision for Autumn's self about Autumn's future. This publicity will make it harder for Autumn to reverse Autumn's current decision if that is what feels right for Autumn in the future.

In addition, Autumn is 9 years old. Autumn is not capable of consenting to having Autumn's private life publicised in this way. Autumn my well feel when Autumn is older that Autumn does not want this information about Autumn in the public domain. Why is the BBC invading the privacy of this child?

The BBC is done for me - the intro on the news to that Scottish footballer story was so biased, insulting to Martina and Sharron, telling us we need to listen to this footballer and "the science" - as if prominent women athletes aren't able to understand "science"!
On top of promoting transing children and child drag queens, no-platforming female speakers several times - I've had enough. Boycotting BBC news now, aiming to boycott all BBC and cancel licence fee.

Let's not forget how much our culture prizes celebrity and attention. I'm absolutely convinced that a lot of the cases of trans kids with 'supportive' parents are a mixture of pliable children and fame hungry parents, looking for their step into admiration and their own reality show/book deal. The very last thing I would do with my troubled, image focused child would be to parade pictures of them on the media. I have no respect for parents who do in these circumstances.

RockyFlintstone Talk about erasure of gay men...

(Also, love your username!)

The BBC don't give a fuck, they recently did a fawning article about Desmond Is Amazing.

The two towels thing reminds me of that episode in Friends when Chandler listens to the stop smoking hypnotherapy tape which tells him he is a 'strong confident woman' and he comes out the shower with the two towels!

Agree about pushing into the spotlight making it harder to desist. Jazz Jennings has pretty much the weight of the entire movement squarely on their shoulders now. I mean, they are too far gone to reverse anything now anyway, but Jazz turning around and saying that they regretted any of it would be catastrophic for the trans movement and everyone knows it.

Sorry but I really don’t agree with parents whose kids are experimenting with something and who like dressing up going and putting their kids lives into the national media like this.

And even if the parents lack judgement, the BBC should know better.

Do you remember Anthony? Do you remember how upset he could get, and how angry he could be? Don't you think Autumn is happier?

They teach coercive control in primary schools?

The Gina Rippon + Baron Cohen segment was better but that was solely down to it being two scientists who wanted to talk about what they've learned from the science and were keen to avoid looking foolish.

Lazy, shit, oxymoronic and biased journalism.

BBC - you are becoming laughable in your attempts to be 'woke'. Because you are, in fact, ticking every, single box that - had this trans-kid been a genetic female - you would be rallying against.

Idiots.

from the article about the child

Autumn is very settled into living as a female and, when she talks about the future and her dreams, it's about being a mother and getting married to the man of her dreams

well Autumn will never be a mother, due to being male. Why is Autumn's mother encouraging Autumn to pin Autumn's dreams on something Autumn can never have.

i too am judging the fuck out of that parent

and yes, the BBC is very irresponsible to publish that article. The article itself says

The NHS says most treatment at this stage is psychological and not surgical, because the majority of children with suspected gender dysphoria do not have the condition once they reach puberty

Autumn is very likely to desist and may well not want this phase of Autumns life in the public domain. Why are the BBC invading Autumn's privacy like this? Autumn is 9 for fuck's sake.

FFS the world has lost the plot. I hated make up when I was young, in fact still do, played with good old He-Man and not Barbies, dressed in trackies and trainers, loved Rugby, Basketball, Hockey but my parents let me figure it out my own way.

The first thought that springs to mind is that advertisers are no longer allowed to make such sexist statements, are they?

I want to complain to theBBC about this, but I just don't have an ability to put the words together. How can I word this so that they listen to my complaint? Has anyone made a complaint and would be willing to share what they wrote?

WorkingItOutAsIGo

Today Programme has just said its going to cover whether male and female brains are different

Don't despair. It might be because of this book The Gendered Brain: The New Neuroscience That Shatters the Myth of the Female Brain by Gina Rippon. The Guardian has reviewed it here www.theguardian.com/books/2019/mar/05/the-gendered-brain-gina-rippon-review

Transing the gay away. How very progressive.

Why was the men’s team not being asked to be inclusive

THIS in SPADES!

Oh dear

Really good point chatty.
The thought that a boy who wants to marry a boy can't be gay, must in fact be a girl in heavy eyeshadow... Homophobic madness