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There are genuine transgender people - but they are quiet.

231 replies

andyoldlabour · 04/03/2019 08:46

I found this on KF, and it shows that there are transgender people with empathy, who do not agree with the way very masculine transgender people are treating women.
It came as a surprise to me, but also was very heartening.
If they were all like this person then there wouldn't be any problems, so it has confirmed my beliefs that certain people are not really transgender but using it for their own nefarious reasons.

twitter.com/kinesis/status/1062885504541110272

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transsexualNOTtransgender · 04/03/2019 14:19

I was on Mumsnet a while ago as were several friends of mine but we all left because we felt attacked.

Transsexual people are not the enemy. I for one openly condemn the transgender umbrella, the idea that trans women are women and transgender women in sport.

There is no question in my mind that the current transgender agenda undermines womens rights and needs to be stopped.

Gender Dysphoria is a medical condition that needs properly assessed and diagnosed and significant psychological support given. Only IF all other avenues fail than transition is an option with appropriate clinical support. Self identifying fetishists, AGPs and the gender confused do not represent what it means to be transsexual or what transsexual people stand for.

I am proud truscum and will happily stand with any women in protecting womens rights.

Sicario · 04/03/2019 09:32

I am very glad to know the lovely transpeople I have met over the years. They are people who just want to go about their lives and never asked for this kind of trouble-making. This vile brand of transactivism is coming from some very nasty people. I have no doubt that there are many among those TRAs who are seriously deluded, affected by personality disorders, and all kinds of other complications. Their misogyny is off the scale - these men hate women, because they want to be us and they can't.

I will continue to love and respect my rainbow of family and friends, but I will never bow to the demand that women give up their hard-won sex-based rights, or that we be forced to call a man a woman. I'd rather go to jail.

schlerp · 04/03/2019 09:14

I have a close friend who is a transsexual (their words) who disassociates from the TRA because they are making her life more and more difficult. Prior to this latest trend she lived quietly minding her own business. She has experienced true transphobia that nearly killed her and surprise surprise it wasn’t from women!

There are a lot of gender critical trans folk out there but they are silenced as truscum and dismissed as traitors.

SingingLily · 04/03/2019 09:10

There is a trans woman from Edinburgh who regularly writes to newspapers about the trans rights agenda. Her letters are always thoughtful, moderate and respectful of other people's concerns and she is clearly perturbed by the damage she feels is being done by extreme TRAs.

In my workplace, I've had dealings with a couple of dozen people who said they were transgender or transsexual. Two were just like her (and they had my utmost sympathy and support). The rest...were not.

Lamaha · 04/03/2019 09:03

I'm not good at Twittering and it took me a while to find out what she's actually saying. But here's the whole thing in a threadreader:

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1062872297143336960.html

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 04/03/2019 08:53

I think kinesis might post here.