Cancelling tv licence: stop funding misogyny

The BBC world serivce has only been funded by the licence fee since 2014, It can cope without it.

BBC World News is commercial.

BBC Alba isn't funded by the licence fee at all, but by the Gaelic Media Service and the Scotish government.

You seem to think all BBC new services are going to suddenly stop if the Fee isn't paid.

I'd rather not pay to a company that covered up a paedophile ring and give biased reporting in news.

It isn't about a programme, its about paying for something that supposed to be unbiased but isn't.

but if the BBC got broken up and sold off in parts, you'd end up with people paying as much for subscriptions to these commercial firms as you would for the license fee

You'd have a choice of what you wanted. And most would be on other services wouldn't they, like Netflix.

what about news that's not dominated by Murdoch, that prioritises commercially unviable foreign news and local reporting etc?

BBC news isn't balanced now, it's as biased as Murdoch press but in the other direction. Doy ou not understand the issue?
The world service would be the same.

CaptainKirks but if the BBC got broken up and sold off in parts, you'd end up with people paying as much for subscriptions to these commercial firms as you would for the license fee. And what about news that's not dominated by Murdoch, that prioritises commercially unviable foreign news and local reporting etc?

And bringing it back to the op, what's to say that any of these new commercial services wouldn't become 'an unbalanced, pro gender stereotype, misogynistic organisation that is actively damaging women’s rights'. Yes you'd have the right to cancel your subscription but like I said originally, are you going to live without YouTube, Netflix, Amazon, Sky etc just because you don't agree with a few of their programmes? I expect you'll find many disagreeable shows on all of these outlets.

No more new, exciting programmes/comedy/new formats that wouldn't be developed by a commercial company because of the risk

This is stretching things isn't it.

It’s an outdated model - I haven’t had a TV licence since I left home at 18 and I don’t think I’ve missed out on anything. There are better and less biased news sources, and the bits of their programming I value (about 90% David Attenborough) is available through other media.

If I had a licence, I’d be cancelling it. And am still off the Ocado. No intention of returning unless they apologise properly.

BBC America
BBC Arabic
BBC Brit
BBC Canada
BBC Earth
BBC Entertainment
BBC First (Australia)
BBC First (Dutch)
BBC HD
BBC Kids
BBC Knowledge
BBC Lifestyle

In the UK:
Dave, Drama, Home, Really, Alibi, Eden, Gold, Good Food, W and Yesterday.

All make money for 'BBC Studios'.

They make money from 200 territories around the world, they are not some small public service, they are a big money making monopoly.

The World Service is funded by the licence fee, but like other radio services a lot of money comes from BBC Worldwide Ltd, which is the arm which deals with Dvd's programme sales and other money making ventures; advertisments from BBC channels outside the UK (BBC America for example) and so on.

I did read.

The BBC is a Billion pound company, they make and will continue to make "Attenborough shows" which sell overseas, likewise PBS, ABC (Australia) NHK (Hong Kong) and Sky will also continue to use him, as they have been over the last 100 years.

UKTV and The Iplayer will all still exist as these are funded by money from the commercial arm, as will anything made by BBC Studios.

S4C (Welsh) will still exist.

Ad free childrens content can be found on any streaming service, Educational childrens content can be found anywhere.

A surprising number of young people are surprisingly conservative, though often thoughtful and liberal towards others. They have little time for the Lily Madigans/NUS/Oh Jeremy Corbyn. They are the viewers of the future, and the BBC does not seem to understand.

Neither of my kids are Woke. And of both their friendship networks, I can only think of one girl who is - and even she is more proto-Woke than a fully paid up Kool Aid drinker.

I also question whether or not Auntie understands this demographic.

CaptainKirks did you actually read my 'press release' or do you just have sarky comments to make? What's your response to what I wrote? What do you think life without a public broadcaster would be like?

A surprising number of young people are surprisingly conservative, though often thoughtful and liberal towards others. They have little time for the Lily Madigans/NUS/Oh Jeremy Corbyn. They are the viewers of the future, and the BBC does not seem to understand.

Yes politics has changed massively over the last 20 years, most young people these days are as you point out centrist with a slight lean.

I don’t think the issue is a boycott, but the need for the BBC to stay relevant. They apparently lost close to a million license fee payers last year.

I effectively have 4 TV licenses. My mum, for whom I am attorney, has a free one. We have one on our own home. We also have one on a small flat we own near my mum even though we normally use the time down there to catch up on DVDs, and I finally decided to buy one for my daughters student flat as a moving in present, thinking that they would probably decide to save the money but might then be caught.

The latter two aren’t really needed and will become less needed the less relevant the BBC becomes. Perhaps next year I won’t bother, and contribute two more to the total of defectors.

I think the BBC has confused “yoof” with “woke”. A surprising number of young people are surprisingly conservative, though often thoughtful and liberal towards others. They have little time for the Lily Madigans/NUS/Oh Jeremy Corbyn. They are the viewers of the future, and the BBC does not seem to understand.

I haven't paid mine for a while.
I think it's disgusting the intimidation tactics they use. The stories of the agency they use sending burly men to intimidate women with their young children in the house were enough for me to cancel. I think the misogyny has been going on for a while. Glad people are taking a stand finally.

You always get people posting what looks like press releases on these threads.

I honestly think that people who want to get rid of the BBC really haven't thought through the consequences of what life would be like without an independent public service broadcaster.

For sure the BBC has many, many flaws... But if it didn't exist, you'd very quickly end up with a US style media, with completely partisan commercial news broadcasters (Fox etc) dominating the output, almost no foreign news reporting because it's commercially unviable, and nowhere to go and just get the facts. Outside of the UK the World Service is considered to be one of Britain's greatest assets with literally millions of people relying on it for impartial reporting in countries where there is no independent media.

That's just news. How about all the stuff that the BBC funds that wouldn't be commercially viable and would just disappear? Eg
-Radio without ads.
-Kids programmes designed to be educational and without ads (CBeebies, CBBC).
-The Proms
-BBC parliament
-The Natural History unit in Bristol would close so no more Attenborough shows
-No more BBC website
-No local news or local radio
-No Welsh language stations
-No iPlayer
-No BBC sport
-No more new, exciting programmes/comedy/new formats that wouldn't be developed by a commercial company because of the risk

There will always be programmes or individual presenters that offend or are perceived as biased - but would you cancel your Netflix/Amazon subscription, or boycott Channel 4 or YouTube etc every time you disagreed with something they broadcast? If so you'd quickly end up with nothing to watch, listen to or read online anywhere!

(And no I don't work for the Beeb! I have just thought about this because of Brexit coverage - and I reckon the BBC needs reform and slimming down but not axing!)

I think it’s a disgrace you can’t go directly to ofcom about the bbc

I complained about the no platforming of Nic Williams and got the same crappy C&P response everyone else did, which was (a) ineffably patronising and (b) going by public statements from the participants and presenter, an actual lie.

I won't bother complaining again, and I can't cancel my licence but I am going to Ofcom.

I don't have a licence, just stay away from iplayer everything else is fine.

I definitely think destroying the BBC is a much better idea than complaining to it
Boycotting the BBC won't destroy it but it might precipitate the inevitable change to a more market-driven business model. And then they'll have to listen to their customers.

You need a licence to receive television broadcasts, and the law has been amended to include the live streaming of tv output online or via cable tv services.

But unless they peer into your front room and see you doing it, there is no way to prove this. They are not allowed into your home without your consent.

You do not need a TV licence to listen to the radio, and this includes radio via Freeview and Freesat.

We cancelled ours during the Saville scandal. I don't use any of there services direct though you can still legally watch their shows via another network (Netflix, Now TV etc). You can unsubscribe online, but you may have do do it any time you move unfortunately or you can still get hassled at the new address (letters nothing more).

I think it's also the case that not having a TV license means that you can't watch any live TV broadcast or stream at all, that includes other channels and any live stream on YouTube etc. So just bare that in mind if you're of the straight laced, statue observing variety.

I intend to cancel today. I was angry after the Scottish referendum, but I still held onto the principle that we needed a high quality broadcaster.... and small people loved CBeebies 🤪. However, think you can get a better service now by selecting programs/ alternative news coverage.

I cancelled but was too chicken to explain my full reasons why. Although the conversation was a bit funny
“when did you get rid of your telly?” “I’ve never had one”
“...”