Miranda Yardley - Legend

Naw, it’s an informative post, but not for the reasons the poster intended!

Bit like when an unknown poster made a thread about a tragic news story involving a completely different Miranda Yardley who lives in a different part of the country.

Can anyone be bothered to report Andie for misgendering Miranda?

Ha! Got them DuMonde

Also, anyone who uses ‘she/her’ for Miranda probably isn’t a GC person.

Sounds like you've never worked in a corporate environment andie. As a junior I regularly worked later than midnight (we all did)... sometimes through until 7.00am. Yes it can suck and if you hate it enough, you leave - so am glad Louise did and is happier now.

Whilst I appreciate she's (Miranda) politically useful I'd be suspicious of her motives

WTF?? I don't regard Mir as "politically useful" but as an intelligent, funny and decent person - I am more suspicious of your motives here, to be honest!

I've met Louise a number of times, she's a friend-of-a-friend sortathing. She's a lovely woman and an absolute heavy music fanatic. But that doesn't mean she's totally cut out for being a hard-nosed business-woman, which is what is required when working for such a magazine, or any really in this economic environment. I know it all took its toll on her health and I'm sorry for that but business can be a horrible cut-throat thing and not all of us are suited to it. I know I'm not

This thread's a zombie.

Am also unsure why you'd resurrect it for an off topic (to the court case) post.

Not sure why you think this is relevant to the thread

Yeah

Im not sure either

Have you ever worked in niche magazine publishing, Andie?

I did ten years on a title with a similar audience to Terrorizer, it’s an absolute fucking nightmare trying to sell enough advertising to cover print and distribution costs and pay staff, especially in the Internet age.

Not sure why you think this is relevant to the thread? Although I suppose both stories are old news at this point.

This is an interview with a former employee of Miranda's (Miranda is the publisher referred to in the article. It's worth reading closely. Whilst I appreciate she's politically useful I'd be suspicious of her motives given what this woman says.

Once a manipulative bully...

"So I would stay until midnight, begging people for adverts. And that became the game our publisher [Miranda] would play on me because she knew I would fight to the death before my pages got cut."

"I don’t think that cover did anyone involved any favours – it just cemented my publisher’s notion of how she could divide and conquer her staff until they all quit, one-by-one, and leave me broken."

www.bardomethodology.com/articles/2019/03/27/louise-brown-interview/

It’s awful that Miranda had this hanging over them for 10 months. They are now also banned from Facebook for saying a word that rhymes with fanny....Is utterly crap that TRAs insist on self identification yet won’t allow Miranda to identify himself as a transsexual.....
Is this not a case of transphobic harassment?

I'm confused about this. Can someone who understands these things better than me explain this to me?

The Daily Mail article says that Miranda's case was the first criminal prosecution for transphobic hate crime in the UK.

Government stats on hate crime (www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2017-to-2018) says that 1651 transgender hate crimes happened in 2017-2018. 9% of these were "violence against the person with injury" and 24% were "violence against the person without injury"

Did none of these crimes go to trial?

If so, I feel that there is a serious issue with reporting them as "hate crimes". How do you know if a crime occurred, if it never went to trial? But also, why didn't they, if they involved violence?

Really backfired for Helen Islan though, didn’t it? Nobody had heard of her before, but that’s an unusual name and everyone will now know her kid is transgender.

Absolutely. The fact that Islan has already stated numerous times on social media that her kid was transgender and had already ‘come out’ and yet was allowed by the CPS to argue that she was negatively affected because Miranda had ‘outed’ her kid, means serious questions should be asked about what cases the CPS decide to run with!

Dear Miranda. I would very much like to buy you a drink. You rock.

Where is the BBC etc etc?

The BBC, instead of using someone who was in the actual room at the trial, who was already scheduled to speak - decided to cut her from their discussion today on the very topic they are discussing.

So, I'd say the BBC are playing hide and seek pretending they are not behind the curtain when everyone can see their glittery size 12s sticking out from under it.

I'm not sure the article actually highlights the ridiculousness of the situation.
Yes - when it says transgender hate crime, two female names, and pictures show one clearly transsexual person and one woman, it’s very easy to assume the picture of Miranda is ‘Helen’ and vice versa. The bizarre nature of this case needs it writing in black and white that a transsexual was accused of transgender hate crime by a woman who is not herself trans.

I agree pasta

Trying to explain the story to my DP who is pretty clued up left me tongue tied.

Islan distances herself from the case by saying that it was the CPS who decided to prosecute. .

I am so sorry that Miranda suffered such a stressful event and a big shout out to his excellent barrister, Amanda. And thank you to the Mail for shining a light on this matter. Where is the BBC etc etc?

That's going to be really confusing for anyone not familiar with the key players in this, because if just skim reading and looking at the pictures and picture captions you could mistakenly assume that it's the clearly transsexual person who has brought a case of transphobic harassment against the woman who is clearly a woman and not a transperson. But it's the other way round.

I'm not sure the article actually highlights the ridiculousness of the situation.

Poor Miranda having to go through this.

Really backfired for Helen Islan though, didn’t it? Nobody had heard of her before, but that’s an unusual name and everyone will now know her kid is transgender.

Love Miranda.

Well I hope somebody complains to the cps and West Yorkshire police about the waste of taxpayers money.

Initially kicked of by West Yorkshire Police - why am I not surprised?

From the judge re harressment. “You have to show a course of conduct and at the moment we have one tweet.*

I hope the Police take note.

Nico It was brought by the CPS so the public picks up the bill.