Sharron Davies

I’m loving that a trans look is now accepted as a thing.

I hired Sharron many many years ago along with Tessa Saunderson for a works event. I was totally intimated by their fabulousness so did not make the most of the occasion.

Isn't the saying sharron looks like a man
the worst insult
as they are "misgendering" her
and she should immediately vanish in a puff of smoke
?

men think the worst insult they can level at a woman is that she looks like a man
this is because they think that for women, our sexual desirability to het men in the most important thing to us

Men are egomaniacs, in short.

Since the data is plain to see - Male bodies have a substantial advantage over females for sport - and the reasons are well documented, McKinnon et al have no case.

They know this, and instead resort to abusing Sharron Davies, who has made moderate and intelligent arguments deserving a respectful hearing.

Well if they like bullying, they have picked the wrong victim, since elite sportswomen are much tougher and twice the women they will ever be. Secondly, any man with daughters / sisters / girlfriend is most unlikely to be sympathetic to McKinnon’s aggression against women.

Let us hope this nonsense is stopped soon and for good

Who is joss prior?

That's gonna sting.

I think it's a frustration that tall, wonderfully athletic women are a) still women, and b) can look incredibly attractive.

Height, defined muscles, a jaw bone that could cut cheese, all looking as hot as you like.

I think to them it's wrong. Because to them women are often depicted as lesser than, demeaned, degraded, victims.

Sharron, to them, is a disconnect. A strong, muscular woman who is as hot as hell.

They really really hate women who don't look like a petite plasticised barbie doll, don't they? And, as PP have noted, there's a ton of internalised transphobia going on here. Very weird and disturbing.

Er... that Joss Prior has noticed that this elite woman swimmer is taller than some males who (afaik) aren't elite swimmers?

Who is joss prior?

Now Joss Prior is weighing in. I don't even understand what that is meant to mean.

It's so bizarre the way Dr McKinnon seems unable to follow their own arguments through beyond A-B. In their opinion, if that photo of Sharron Davies was presented to people as a transwoman, many people would think she was a man (argument a-b) and that this would show that people are prejudiced against transwomen because they have what transwomen consider to be masculine features.

And yet, she wouldn't be a man (b-c). Those opinions, if really held, would be erroneous, not because of looks or features, but because of biological reality. Whereas, if Dr McKinnon was thought to be a man, this would be correct. It's almost as if Twitter responses and followers represent reality, and how well you pass is how female you are. It is odd getting a glimpse of profound sex dysphoria and its distorting effect. What was that detransitioner account linked to on here somewhere explaining that the more attention paid to the body and the more medical treatment received for sex dysphoria, the worse sex dysphoria tends to get.

I really am struggling to get my head around a transwoman effectively using 'looking like a transwoman' as an insult

Indeed. It appears that Rachel McKinnon has internalised transphobia.

Would it be descending into cattiness to notice that McKinnon specifically singled out Sharron's jawline?

As it happens Sharron has an amazing jawline - extremely defined and also very feminine in its shape. Not remotely "trans" looking. Whereas Rachel's jaw is... possibly Rachel's least feminine feature. Rachel is a very transparent creature in some ways.

I really am struggling to get my head around a transwoman effectively using 'looking like a transwoman' as an insult.

m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=B0pfueKxhVI

This is good, needs a wider audience.

‘Alison is a professor of physiology at University of Otago. She explains the multiple effects of testosterone in male foetal development and that these hormonal effects do not diminish later in life’

Aside from the fact that Sharron in a swimsuit very obviously has a female body, and has given birth. She has undergone menarche, menstruation, pregnancy, giving birth, breast feeding and menopause. In other words, she has a 100% female body.

McKinnon has undergone none of those experiences, never could do so, and obviously retains Male genitalia which McKinnon thinks makes her a lesbian and that other (actual) lesbians should want to have sex with her, and if they don’t they’re “discriminating”. McKinnon is a vile woman hating bully and I for one do not intend to stand by and watch women’s sports, safe places and rights be torn to bits by McKinnon and like minded thugs.

It must kill McKinnon that Sharron looks so bloody athletic, and yet such a woman. She needs zero accoutrements to show how female she is.

It’s not just that Sharron Davies is exquisitely attractive and feminine, it is that suggesting she could be mistaken for trans is a despicable taunt and insult. It’s obvious McKinnon is an intellectual lightweight, a bully and someone who gets off on publicly insulting female sporting legends.

Happily Daley Thomson has supported Davies publicly so now we have a Male sporting legend onside as well.

Lowering the tone here ...
But there was this rower who found the medal ceremony overwhelmingly exciting.

Sharron is possibly the most conventionally attractive female British sports woman ever. The idea anybody could mistake her for a trans woman is ludicrous.

Yes. I think it highlights the ego of RM, they cannot see the difference between male and female, therefore think no one else can.

TBF there is a pic of some men who won a cycling thing in eyewateringly revealing shorts...

POssibly people who design cycling gear are eitehr a bit rubbish or enjoy a bit of a jape.

Sharron is possibly the most conventionally attractive female British sports woman ever. The idea anybody could mistake her for a trans woman is ludicrous.

Colombian cycling team.

Oh god I remember that!

But presumably those girls owned mirrors so knew what they looked like ?!!??!!!

OMG milly what the hell IS that???

I had to look at it two or three times.

There was also this:

bit.ly/2XJDsa3

...which nobody realised was in any way iffy until it was pointed out to them.