Sharron Davies

Makes me long for a good old fashioned Victorian asylum where people who deny reality would previously have been consigned to.

The whole birth certificate is a legal fiction Rachel - an adoptive parent is the legal parent of their child. It doesn’t change the biological reality that an adoptive parent hasn’t passed on 50% of their genetic material to their child and it would
be absurd to go to a medical appointment and give their family medical history as the child’s medical history just because the birth/adoption certificate says they are their parent.

Material reality is important!

Oh, lord, give me the confidence of a mediocre male

So apt.

McKinnon is proper melting down on Twitter

When ive looking in the past there is just tweet after tweet from RM getting quite agitated

ewe

I agree

Dh is shorter than me...and I'm fatter

But he is much much stronger than me

I am taller than some men.
This makes me a tall female.

McKinnon and Prior are soooooooo jealous. It's hilarious.

McKinnon is proper melting down on Twitter.

It is a common 'argument'

It goes that
Su cessful sports people have certain natural advantages
Basketball players are tall
Gymnasts are flexible
Weightlifter are str9ng
Etc

We do not say that tall women are advantaged when eg playing rugby and so should not be allowed to compete
We say well that's the way it goes

Therefore women who have the natural extra height strength power etc due to being male should not be singled out

Sport is intrinsically unfair as all people are born with attributes that help or don't help and so men should be allowed to compete against women as its hardly their fault they were born with a bit of extra dick and all that goes with it

To be fair to joss, I don’t think joss was saying anyone taller must be trans.

I think joss was trying to disprove “transwomen are men and so are taller/more muscular/stronger than women” forgetting that the two bell curves for men and women overlap but that men on average are taller/faster/stronger.

It still doesn’t change the fact that women are not medically/surgically altered men but are an entity in their own right, which I think is more pertinent.

Wtf is that height comment supposed to mean? My sister is slightly taller than our dad he will be surprised to know that means he is a trans woman.

Sharron is beautiful...and bone structure to die for

r... that Joss Prior has noticed that this elite woman swimmer is taller than some males who (afaik) aren't elite swimmers

Im two inches taller than dh

And i only use one towel (apparently its a 'sign' on another thread)

Sooooooo...how do i break it to dh?

In fact, we were absolutely spoiled for choice for incredible, inspiring women athletes in the 70s/80s/90s Mary Peters

Princess Diana was taller than Joss. Does that make her a trans woman, too?

Sharron Davies is bloody gorgeous! And a generally amazing women who is tough and not scared to speak to truth.
RM is none of those things and never will be, and clearly has green eyes on this occasion

Yes, Fatima is amazing. I agree. She seems to have been off the radar for a few years, happily raising her son.

In fact, we were absolutely spoiled for choice for incredible, inspiring women athletes in the 70s/80s/90s.
Makes my heart hurt for the young women currently at or approaching their sporting prime, wondering if they’ll be bumped off the team in favour of a trans identified male any moment.

They, and the next women after them, deserve better.

Sharron Davies is everything these people wish they were, and they cannot contain their rage.

They really really hate women

Corrected that for ya.

fatima whitbread is an amazing inspirational and lovely woman

i saw a prog about her a few years ago and she had the most utterly hideously appalling childhood and then she was abused and in and out of care and it's a shocking story that she was really strong to tell.

she seemed really genuine thoughtful gentle and lovely

i cried when i watched it

It’s great that McK has reflected on McK appalling behaviour towards Martina so McK can grow as a person & learn to treat (auto correct made that threat ) other people better 👀

SD is as tough & classy as they come

I really, really want Fatima Whitbread to pop up and tell Rachel to cock off.

TBF MEN have always enforced gender norms and standards of masculinity and femininity.

RM is very confused.

Now they think that feminine people are women and masculine people are men?

As measured how - norms of masculinity and femininity vary across countries and time and all sorts of other considerations.

RM going to dig themself in a massive hole if they carry on down this path.

Since when is being a woman all about how you look?
SD is awesome, by the way. And a bit of a ground breaker back in the day. I'm old so know her from rooting for her as a swimmer. Who would've got Olympic gold if it wasn't for a cheat.

As @TemporaryPermanent says, it's an illogical attempt to make the argument that transwomen are just like women and so don't have a competitive advantage.

Their assertion is that Sharron Davies looks (in their opinions) less feminine or as feminine as they do. Therefore there is no difference between transwomen and women.

Missing the point of course that Sharron D is an absolutely exceptional woman. Much taller than average and literally world beating athlete. At some points in her career no woman was better than her. And yet, a non elite transwoman has supposedly similar features.... can they not realise that this is making the argument that they are trying to reject!

Mckinnon's really cross. She didn't think through the jibe about sharrons looks. I think she was probably saying that gc types always say they can tell a tw from a woman, but they can't. But even in mckinnon world it wasn't well thought through.

Mckinnon world is where she lives. She teaches mckinnon studies at the University of mckinnon. She rides her bike in the mckinnon-drome, then logs on to the mckinnonet and tweets to the rest of mckinnon world (the ones she hasn't blocked with the mckinnon-list).

I try not to post criticism of inviduals but she's having a go at our sporting icons now.