Powerful article in the Mail about the Tavistock 'rushing children'

"Considering the lack of clinical evidence for the drugs used, one might question why the national service (which has been going for 30 years) hasn’t yet undertaken a research study or even collected basic follow-up outcome data?"

I think that is a great point.

According to Marcus Evans, there has been no research study done at GIDS, and GIDS has been saying that there is "sparse evidence" for treatment.

And yet it has been operating for 30 years. Why then is there sparse evidence? Surely they can look at their own data? Why aren't they following up on ALL patients?

I haven't read the Rod Liddle article yet, but must say that I found Marcus Evans so humane and thoughtful: we really need more approaches like this! The line about standing up to pressure also hits hard. To some extent, this involves a capacity to remain empathetic to the child’s distress, but to also stand up to pressure coming from various sources

We need better allies

Sharing a critical take on a set of concepts doesn't equal sharing a tribal affiliation

Rod Liddle is a dog whistle right wing toad.
We need better allies...

Beggars can't be choosers.

We need better allies...

We need people from all parts of the political spectrum speaking up about this. Including nice people everyone approves of and not so nice people. That includes Liddle, however unpleasant he is.

Are the better allies the men of the left who think we should legalise prostitution and relax porn restrictions? Why would such a man be a better ally?

We need better allies...

And where can we find them, bumper?

I’ve never liked Liddle, but in comparison with Owen Jones, Liddle is Andrea Dworkin. I’m only just realising how many supposedly left wing men really despise women.

bumpertobumper in theory I agree, but if there's one thing I've learned this past year or so it's that the organisations I thought were my allies, in the tribal, 'this is my club' sense, aren't. They're all busy swigging the koolaid and trying to be woke and progressive.

So am now in position of refusing to align myself with people who don't give a fuck about me, and accepting that I can line up with people on one subject even if I dislike their views on everything else.

Don't know if that's shamefully opportunistic or pragmatic and mature, but it's where I am.

Rod Liddle is a dog whistle right wing toad.
We need better allies...

Which better allies? The men who declare themselves to be our allies while simultaneously telling us that there is nuance about this debate - aka who is and isn't a woman?

There isn't any nuance. It's a zero sum game.

Whistleblowing in the nhs is a career-ending thing to do, regardless of how justified

Indeed it is, but Marcus Evans has been at the Trust for 35 years, and no doubt did other work within the NHS before then (he cites a 40 year career). I expect he's able to draw his pension and will top it up with freelance work like writing articles criticising the treatment his ex colleagues are still giving out.

He knows the wind is changing direction and is battening down to protect his reputation.

Rod Liddle is a dog whistle right wing toad.
We need better allies...

This story was also covered in a balanced way in the observer last weekend and he was interviewed on the Today prog on Radio 4

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/23/child-transgender-service-governor-quits-chaos?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

n my 40 years of experience in psychiatry, I have learned that dismissing serious concerns about a service or approach is often driven by a defensive wish to prevent painful examination of an ‘overvalued system’,” he complained in his resignation email.
He added: “I do not believe we understand what is going on in this complex area and the need to adopt an attitude which examines things from different points of view is essential. This is difficult in the current environment as the debate and discussion required is continually being closed down or effectively described as ‘transphobic’ or in some way prejudicial.”

Has this been posted?

An open letter to Tavistock GIDS that cites the Daily Mail article and this weeks Panorama programme

www.transgendertrend.com/open-letter-to-tavistock-gids/

And making sure they come out smelling of roses.

Whistleblowing in the nhs is a career-ending thing to do, regardless of how justified

Yup. He had ten years to find another less controversial job , or indeed whisper it, to address those concerns Lang

I'm calling it. He and Bell are getting out before the court cases start rolling in. And making sure they come out smelling of roses.

But..theres extensive counselling first. A whole hour up to 6 hours! And the waiting list is about 2 years long which is not the same for any other medical problem and is clearly just because the world is transphobic. The only way to make this fair is to abolish all wait times for gender issues, and give out hormones on first visit!

As a manager, I was on the clinic’s committee more than ten years ago when concerns were first raised by members of staff within the GID unit that the assessments of patients weren’t in-depth enough.

Staff have been attempting to raise concerns for ten years, predating even the current contagion-related increase in numbers?

This is fucking terrifying.

Fantastic article from Marcus Evans.

McKinnon is by no means the only top level transwomen cyclist, albeit this one hasn't claimed a woman's world record.

cyclistsalliance.org/articles/i-am-finally-human/

Just beelieve and you can be whatever species you want.
Sorry.

He has a whole stable of hobby horses

I have a whole hive of bees in my bonnet. I'm now wondering if that's my feminine socialisation. I much prefer horses. I'm going to trans specie my bees to horses.

He has a whole stable of hobby horses, largely things he considers silly (ie irrational). Not a nuanced sort of person!

That line jumped out at me as well, born. I thought it was odd - is it a hobby horse of Liddle’s?