Boy, 12, raped six-year-old sister ‘to recreate Grand Theft Auto scene’, court told

As I said in a previous post. I grew up watching horrors. I've never hurt anyone.

My brother on the other hand used to beat me up and he wasnt exposed to this stuff. We only had terrestrial TV too and a bed time.

We need to teach them its fake. That violence is bad. Sex should he consensus between adults etc. Teach them so they can he exposed to this stuff and know it's wrong and tell us they saw it .

Girls are blamed for their clothes by adults

Boys are brought up entitled . If they weren't then they would know not to behave that way.

Ot all starts way eat way before they are exposed to this stuff.

It merely exposes the failures rather than being the cause

But it also happens and has happened in places where they dont have this stuff.

Take the Duggar family for instance.

Restricted to the point the girls weren't even able to compete their midwifery training because they may come into contact with lesbians, single mums and u married parents. Homeschooled too in order to keep their kids sheltered from everything.

Yet the brother still abused his sisters.

I'm.not saying it doesn't impact. I am saying that if we think parental controls on the internet and banning computer games will be the answer, then I think thats a mistake.

Siblings can grow up in the exact same environment exposed to all kinds of things. And still turn out opposites of each other.

I'm.just saying theres more too it

Tom and Jerry was supposed to be funny because the mouse always outsmarted the cat. If it was a realistic depiction of what cats do to mice then we wouldn’t let our dc watch it, or most of us wouldn’t anyway, as it wouldn’t be funny it would be distressing unnecessary violence.

I self censor in that as an adult I can watch what I want but I don’t want to watch women being raped and I don’t want to play games where raping and murdering npc is seen as a cheeky Easter egg etc etc. I don’t understand why people do want to watch these things or do these things and also want write it off as harmless entertainment. They obviously get something from it specifically, as there’s a million other things you could do instead.

Adults spending their time killing cgi zombies, blah. Kids watching Disney Marvel films, yawn. Anyone playing games where you turn baddies into cherries or coins or whatever, whatever. These things are not the same as watching real life actual violence or role playing the same real life actual violence that is carried out across the world, predominantly by men towards women, children and other men.

vesuvia yes, key word "often". I also said I understand mothers dilemma as they are essentially having to choose between their kids.

MamaDane wrote - "I often think mothers are the worst in this scenario".

MamaDane wrote - "I do think it's wrong to generalize based on gender, skin, or sexuality."

Babied

Fwiw my parents were pretty strict with regards to what we watched which is why I had to be sneaky to watch half the stuff .

I was the one who grew up watching horrors.

My brother on the other hand he was never into horrors and babies something chronic as a kid. Didn't stop him being violent towards me. Way before we got our hands on a nintendo to shoot ducks .

I'm just saying there is a deeper reason we need to look at.

I despair of our society tbh. It’s end days seem to be washed in a hue of terrifying violent abuse, filmed and watched for a bit of fun and games made where you can rape characters for a laugh and it’s seen as a perfectly harmless pastime. What a time to be alive

I am honestly struggling to think of a single kids cartoon, game, book etc where the idea isn't to hit or hurt or kill. Where characters arent eaten, kidnapped, shot with fire balls, tied up, chased etc

Yes things are more graphic now but the storylines or ideas are not that different.

Kids study Shakespeare in school. We all know how romeo and juliet ends. The kids didn't all make suicide pacts after.

We all still grew up watching a cat and mouse beat each other to a pulp .

We all tucked our kids in at night reading a story about a girl kidnapped by a nasty man who she managed to change then fell in love with her captor

Yes we need to watch what our kids have access too I have never ever said we dont

But a 12 year old kid should know the difference between fictional computer games and reality. The idea they are so influenced by them is worrying and I think we need to tackle the susceptibility.

Porn is obviously a little different as it's real people and real actions. But that's where we need to tell out children it's not real. It's not right. And they shouldn't be expecting to do it or have it done to them.

My biggest bug bear with the whole attitude of pinning it on games etc is that it's now used as a way out in court. Actions don't have consequences if you can make.out you were influenced in certain ways to do it. That is wrong and is contributing to the situation we have

That doesn't erase our responsibilities as parents to make sure we teach our kids to make.the distinction between what they see on TV vs reality.

90% of y6 boys have seen pornography and some of their fucking idiot parents let their 6 year olds and upwards play games like gta. There’s literally no need when there are more age appropriate games and media to consume than a child could ever consume in a lifetime.

No one wants to believe a 12 year could repeatedly rape a 6 year old so they focus on why he’s nice and not why he chose to do a terrible wicked thing to a defenceless little girl.

Can’t believe we get namalt and the only rapists are the ones that have seen a day in court on the feminist forum but there you do. The need to defend ridiculous thinking is obviously very great.

I despair of our society tbh. It’s end days seem to be washed in a hue of terrifying violent abuse, filmed and watched for a bit of fun and games made where you can rape characters for a laugh and it’s seen as a perfectly harmless pastime. What a time to be alive.

I'm certainly not defending porn

But you have to know about it to look for it.

Most kids get phones around what? Yr 5/6

The comments, the silliness around nudity, the name calling and the general disrespect for girls comes before rhen!

I'm saying they are well on their way before porn and computer games which is why it's a mistake to just blame internet access .

Pornography is causing a massive increase of sexual assaults in schools. It is driving a terrifying attitude towards women amongst boys. They are desentisised to the most unthinkable acts of violence by the horrific stuff that is freely available on mainstream sites that they can access on their phones. Our teenage girls are paying a terrible price.

I’m a secondary teacher. I see what’s going on. I’ve been in safeguarding training recently that would break your heart into pieces.

I started teaching eleven years ago. If you came across a word like ‘penetrate’ in a text, there would be a ripple of sniggers around the room. Now that snigger comes if you use the words ‘choke’, ‘destroy’ or ‘ruin’. How the hell have those become sexual words? What does that snippet show you about what teenagers believe sex to be?

The sexual aggression that teenage girls are expecting is a scandal and a disgrace. Anyone defending pornography doesn’t have a fucking clue.

What on earth are you talking about?

No one is trying to silence you; this isn't the thread for you to be point scoring.

Knicknack It started off with me saying my brother is not a rapist. That is hardly an unreasonable statement to make. You are trying to silence me, not the other way around. I do think it's wrong to generalize based on gender, skin, or sexuality. So yes I have a problem with people assuming that because my brother is a man that he could be a rapist. It's absurd. I'm a lesbian and I've been sexually harassed by both genders unfortunately. So you're also silencing women who have been subjected to woman on woman abuse. I am not trying to make any man feel better, I am against viewing people as monsters without any indication of them being monsters. That is hardly unreasonable.

Well obviously it is most important to support that poor little boy. Nice that the judge chatted to him about football to make him feel more comfortable. And now his 6 year old, sister has been told being raped wasn't her fault she has cheered up completely. What's the problem?
I am so, so angry
I really hope that someone is advocating for that little girl and that social services are keeping her safe.

Francis - my daughter has had intensive therapy, and as she goes through puberty we're able to access more. It's hard though, and we're all extremely worried about her because she appears to be on the cusp of an eating disorder, plus shes due to move up to comprehensive school in September, so it's a time of huge change for her. We're trying to guide her through it as best we can.

Knicknack Jesus Christ

…….

You said you weren't going to play schroedingers rapist. The only possible answer is good luck with that, because that's what women have to do. You're welcome to believe whatever you want about your personal risk from men, and so are other women.

NAMALT - you have said exactly that.
Women do it too - you have said exactly that. (2% via 98%.)

The sole purpose of saying such things is to discourage women from saying things that basically hurt men's feelings, and to present a disproportionate view that minimises women's concerns to make men feel better.

I'm not ok with that, but YMMV.

Francis I never understood women who would choose their abusive partners over their child.

At least with children, I somewhat get it as obviously as a mother they are both your kids, you love them and there's an instinct to protect them, but in the end, it is of course at the expense of the abused child. So no matter what you either choose the abuser by not choosing the abused child or you choose the abused child. Horrible position to be a mother in. But even worse for the abused child.

I’ve played a few of the GTA games, in one of them you can pick up a prostitute, drive to a quiet part of the map. Pay for sexual acts and afterward run her over or beat her to death and get your money back. That was part of the actual game, and not a mod.

I remember that.

Besides, did I take a wrong turn and end up on reddit or something? What's with all this "HDU attack my video games, my porn! totes harmless fun!" ? With the eyerolls and the NAMALT no less.

Knicknack Jesus christ. 🙄

How lovely for you. Good luck with that.

Now moving on from NAMALT and Women Do It Too So Shhh…

@codenameduchess any woman could potentially also be a rapist. I listen to victims when they come forward, but I cannot just assume people are rapists unless there are actual inductions of it. Like a person saying "hey, I was raped by x" is a rather big indicator. Also people who tend to be overly touchy feely, like the man in the other thread that wanted to kiss the little girl he barely knew, but the little girl turned her head and he still tried to kiss her, I'd also call that an indication of him perhaps being someone who molests. But unless any of that information is there, I'm not going to play schrödinger's rapist.

*rape
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Sorry ~should be working~

*porn