Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

"Student who lost track championship to transgender athletes speaks out"

55 replies

QuietContraryMary · 27/02/2019 14:43

There's an interview by Laura Ingraham here with Selina Soule who lost to two biologically male athletes in the Connecticut State Championship.

video.foxnews.com/v/6007625250001/

Laura went to the same school as Selina and cuts her off when she starts saying 'it's great that they are being true to themselves', and basically says 'this is just cheating'. She doesn't have a lot of time for Selina's attempt to be nice.

This is a different athlete in a different arena but the same thing.

www.outsports.com/2019/2/26/18241404/donald-trump-junior-trans-athletes-success-injustice

(note I previously linked to this same latter story, however MN did not like the source and has deleted the thread, so I have provided this ultra-woke LGBT source.

Their argument amounts to 'the transgender athlete only won SOME of the events, not everything, there was still room for other women to win in those events' )

OP posts:
OlennasWimple · 27/02/2019 20:06

We haven't even been allowed women's sport for 100 years in most events / disciplines

Boys and men who take away opportunities from women and girls should be embarassed and ashamed

Lamaha · 27/02/2019 18:27

Great article, saying it like it is.
www.louderwithcrowder.com/opinion-transwomen-men-who-compete-against-women-are-sexist-asshles/
Let me cover my bases here, as I don’t want to be accused of being exclusionary. Not only are transwomen (men who think they’re women but who are, and always will be, men) who compete against women sexist assholes, but the people who support transwomen (men) competing against women are also sexist assholes. I will not walk this statement back, not one tiny girl step. Furthermore, transwomen (men) who compete against women are not only not women but the very worst kind of men. Putting transwomen who compete against women on the bottom-most rung of the societal food chain. I am not sorry to state it, but I am sorry other women have to suffer the consequences of such awful men stealing opportunities from women.

happydappy2 · 27/02/2019 17:59

Shocking that the girl is the one who speaks out about the unfairness, where are the adults, the coaches, the parents, the head Teachers? Why leave all this on the young girl athlete who will no doubt get a backlash for speaking the truth.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 27/02/2019 16:18

XY and XX categories will just be the first step to a whole lot of whining and pseudo science about what XX and XY is.

It's like ruddy Damien Whatzit from the NHS wanting to re brand cervical smears as for 'cervix havers' saying that 'people with cervixes include a group called women'. Sigh. No, Damien, that won't save you and it isn't the truth. Only women have cervixes. Some women do not want to call themselves women and have chosen other labels to call themselves. So have a computer system that's capable of recognising women and women who prefer to go by different names. They are all women, whether they want to be or not, and trying to pander about with 'cervix havers' discriminates against and confuses and disenfranchises the 99.99% of women who are fine with being called women and need those services.

Lying does not help anybody. Fudging unavoidable truths does not help anybody.

Bowlofbabelfish · 27/02/2019 16:11

Breaking barriers = breaking the rules.

FemalePersonator · 27/02/2019 15:54

Respect to the young women for speaking out about the cheating in the race they lost.

FemalePersonator · 27/02/2019 15:52

there should be an XX category and an XY category of women's sport.

There is.

It’s called men’s sport and women’s sport.

Precisely.

HalfBloodPrincess · 27/02/2019 15:49

That’s what you call a brave and stunning woman. Both of them. What a fantastic interviewer. But what a shame that Selina couldn’t actually come out and say what she actually wanted to say. I hope she doesn’t get any backlash for this.

WaddIelikeapenguin · 27/02/2019 15:44

Wow Selina huge respect; what a poised young woman.
Thanks for sharing that video

Jaxhog · 27/02/2019 15:43

Either we have women's events for biological women or we don't. To have biological males competing in women's sport defeats the whole point of women's sport being separate.

I get that Transwomen want to BE women. I get that they think they ARE women. But they are not. Not until they can change their fundamental biology, which hormones don't do.

Since when does a minority, who are significantly phyisically stronger, get to trample all over the rights of 50% of the population? Or maybe I've just answered my own question.

Atalune · 27/02/2019 15:33

nauticant lolz

feministfairy · 27/02/2019 15:32

What a good interview - so clear about the unfairness and cheating.

All strength to Selina.

mumsiedarlingrevolta · 27/02/2019 15:22

Incredibly brave of her to speak out-

The impact on her and many other girls being denied opportunities in this way is huge.

I can not get my head round anyone justifying this as "fair" for the biological girls. They are being sacrificed for political correctness gone mad.

nauticant · 27/02/2019 15:22

Where trans women post pics holding baseball bats on twitter and feign ignorance as to the message it sends.

I thought the message was "look at my lovely stick".

As we know, "look at my lovely stick" is a popular type of selfie in the transwomen community.

nauticant · 27/02/2019 15:19

There should be an "X-only" category to allow for XX and higher orders, and a "mixed" category where some Y can be included.

pallisers · 27/02/2019 15:19

Does this mean girls will miss out on college scholarships?

yes. It also means she will miss out on opportunities for admission to colleges - with or without scholarship money. Highly competitive athletes are often offered a commitment by highly competitive colleges. My daughter's friend was offered a place at a college that would have otherwise been a real stretch for her because she is highly competitive in crew/rowing. If she couldn't get in front of those coaches, then this wouldn't have happened.

Atalune · 27/02/2019 15:17

Yes there have been cases of women missing scholarships already in the USA.

Welcome to our brave new stunning world huns. Where trans women post pics holding baseball bats on twitter and feign ignorance as to the message it sends.

MillytantForceit · 27/02/2019 15:14

The solution is to have paralympic categories for trans.

Paralympic movement's mission statement is to bring opportunities for impaired athletes to achieve excellence.

frazzled1 · 27/02/2019 15:13

Brave young woman you are Selina. Totally agree it's about fairness not demonisation.

Unless of course we want more women's teams like this.....

"Student who lost track championship to transgender athletes speaks out"
RagingWhoreBag · 27/02/2019 15:11

there should be an XX category and an XY category of women's sport.

There is.

It’s called men’s sport and women’s sport.

An XY category of women’s sport makes literally no sense.

O4FS · 27/02/2019 15:11

The cut-off to advance from the state to the regional championships was #6. So she otherwise would be competing and getting the attention of college athletics coaches, but has literally been denied by the two transgender competitors.

That is fucking outrageous.

Does this mean girls will miss out on college scholarships?

WTFIsAGleepglorp · 27/02/2019 15:10

At this level, it's all about scholarships for college.

Who knows how many girls will be missing out on furthering their education?

Atalune · 27/02/2019 15:06

Xx xy categories are a great solution.

Men stomping alll over women’s sports. Gah!

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 27/02/2019 15:03

What there needs to be is a split in women's sport. In the same way that athletes missing a leg are not expected to compete in the same category as athletes missing an arm because they are physically too different, there should be an XX category and an XY category of women's sport.

QuietContraryMary · 27/02/2019 15:01

This was Selina's race:

www.athletic.net/result/W3iYnAgIlQSjg023H3/

As you can see she finished 8th. #1 and #2 are both biological males.

The cut-off to advance from the state to the regional championships was #6. So she otherwise would be competing and getting the attention of college athletics coaches, but has literally been denied by the two transgender competitors.

OP posts:
Swipe left for the next trending thread