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Panorama 25 Feb 20.30hrs: Trans Kids: Why Medicine Matters **Thread title edited by MNHQ**

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TimeLady · 25/02/2019 12:36

"More young people than ever are exploring their gender identity. Last year, two and a half thousand under-eighteens were referred to NHS England's gender identity clinics for support. Some are hoping to get access to potentially irreversible treatments as soon as they can. Doctors are divided about the best way to help."

"Dr Faye Kirkland investigates how much we understand about the care being offered to transgender children."

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Muststopfaffing · 25/02/2019 20:50

Finally onto fake suicide stats!

RedRosa90 · 25/02/2019 20:49

Jade needs somebody to affirm they can be who they are, by which I mean a creative, colourful young person, who wants to be gentle and loving and to perform and have their own personality. Not a conversation with an older grooming person telling them that they might self harm if they don't get affirmed.

Cwenthryth · 25/02/2019 20:49

This is pretty fast paced - I guess they’ve only got half an hour. But it’s leading to a very rushed feeling with no time to challenge various statements.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 25/02/2019 20:48

jade had a traumatic childhood

colour me surprised

Muststopfaffing · 25/02/2019 20:47

Helen Webberley is so far beyond ethical practice. If I treated people with such serious medication because I thought I was right, regardless of evidence base , even if they were desperate I would not go against best practice in such a reckless way, prescribing outside of my competence area.

HumberElla · 25/02/2019 20:47

Born female. Was told at 12 ran like a boy and walked like a boy? Didn’t identify with feminine things?
And lo and behold Helen W obliged with providing hormones.
Helen says that’s ok because the patient (child) says they are ok with it. All good.

RedRosa90 · 25/02/2019 20:47

Omg somebody save Jade!!

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 25/02/2019 20:46

all the patients that webberly has treated say she's right?

how long has she been in business (literally)?

GrimSisters · 25/02/2019 20:45

Very sympathetic towards Webberley so far. Hmm

EweSurname · 25/02/2019 20:45

Helen Webberly! What was she saying on her twitter feed because she’s clearly agreed to be interviewed for this

pombear · 25/02/2019 20:45

Well this is different. (Waves to Faye) (Doesn't wave to Helen W)

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 25/02/2019 20:44

They are medicalising children like how I was and am.
Yes, we knew this but isn't it heartbreaking to see.

Muststopfaffing · 25/02/2019 20:44

😡 at “runs like a boy” now on to Helen Webberley

Mrskeats · 25/02/2019 20:43

Marilyn is very much on our side: he’s quite vocal on Twitter.

SomeDyke · 25/02/2019 20:42

"Christ my sister was a whale in the school play. What the hell does that make her?"
trans species, but still a mammal.........
What if your role in the school play was an inanimate object? Any trans rocks? (take care as regards word order and meaning.......).

They are medicalising children like how I was and am. Yep, SO many of us glad we were then not now.

EweSurname · 25/02/2019 20:42

“There’s a reason why people have begun to think about such [drastic treatment]”. How do they square this with an affirmative pathway, if it’s such a unknown, risky treatment?

Muststopfaffing · 25/02/2019 20:41

Difficult to hear the teenagers with dysphoria and feel their distress but so far looking at evidence for puberty blockers and risks. Polly Carmichael making what seems to be a technical differentiation on what “reversible” means.

misscockerspaniel · 25/02/2019 20:41

What have we been saying about live experimentation?!

ToeToToe · 25/02/2019 20:40

RIght, Cwenthryth.

It's like Boy George, Marilyn etc never even happened. Sad

HumberElla · 25/02/2019 20:40

Jade seems very creative, alternative and expressive. Wanted to be an angel and told no. This teen was a child who, like many of us, wanted to be free to have fun and express themselves in their own way.
Now this is being medicalised?!

EweSurname · 25/02/2019 20:39

This seems like it might actually be a balanced, evidence-focussed programme

Cwenthryth · 25/02/2019 20:39

Jade is breaking my heart already. Someone get the kid a time machine to when they could run around as flamboyant as they like, with as extreme makeup as they like, and do it as a boy/man and not be led to believe it means there’s anything wrong with them.

Serious criticism of puberty blockers coming up now.

ToeToToe · 25/02/2019 20:38

"Early stages of puberty" - so my 11yr old DD's age then. She's starting puberty now.

My 11yr old daughter is not old or mature enough to understand the long-term consequences of being guided onto such a medical pathway.

Polly C does not know for sure that they are fully reversible.

RedRosa90 · 25/02/2019 20:38

Lordprof, LOL.

misscockerspaniel · 25/02/2019 20:37

I thought it looked like HW but she isn't claiming to be in it on her twitter a/c.