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Move to Self ID paused in NZ for public consultation.

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Tipmeover · 25/02/2019 04:44

‘Tonight: @TraceyMartinMP has just announced she's deferring a bill that would make it easier to change gender on birth certificates.. "there has been inadequate public consultation" and bill would benefit from legal clarification around complex cases. She's on Q+A tonight 9:25’’

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thewitchofwentworth · 25/02/2019 13:18

Video of the Q+A interview with the minister, Tracy Martin.

MillytantForceit · 25/02/2019 11:00

Linky:

www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/383342/births-deaths-and-marriages-bill-deferred-to-allow-more-public-consultation

(And see article in top left corner)

BettyDuMonde · 25/02/2019 11:00

Amazing!

Well done, and keep going!

OhHolyJesus · 25/02/2019 10:33

This is great news! All that hard work by those women has got our voices heard. It can be done! Well done to them!

GerryblewuptheER · 25/02/2019 10:10

Well done you lot!!

terfsandwich · 25/02/2019 10:08

Well done New Zealand women. Wine

frazzled1 · 25/02/2019 10:05

Well done to all involved!
Keep going. Do not allow sex / gender stereotypes to be conflated in NZ or anywhere else. Flowers

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Tipmeover · 25/02/2019 09:57

Tracey Martin surprised me - I thought she was actually very good. Especially in her emphasis that gender and sex are two distinct things. Corin Dann was disgraceful, absolutely appalling.

He appeared to have done no research and his dismissal over concerns about prisons and schooling was so telling.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/02/2019 09:55

delighted to hear this. It thought it was a shoe in. Well, a size 12 kitten heel in...

2019StandingforWomen · 25/02/2019 09:52

Lots of exciting things happening at the moment.

Congratulations NZ women.

anOxfordparent · 25/02/2019 09:01

Well done NZ feminists!

thatdamnwoman · 25/02/2019 08:57

I have relatives and friends in NZ and I know that because the local media is so parochial they look to the British press and the BBC for world news. This turn of events in NZ may well have been influenced by what's starting to happen here. They will have been paying a surprising amount of attention.

Yeahnahyeah · 25/02/2019 08:54

Tracy was excellent. Flowers

OtepotiLilliane42 · 25/02/2019 08:52

I started to watch it but Corin never lets his guests get a sentence out without feeling the need to interupt, at which point I yell at the screen, and feel a headache coming on.

I suspect Tracey Martin might have got a more rational discussion from the likes of Whale Oil which is really painful to say, but probably true.

Illyria47 · 25/02/2019 08:49

Fucking useless interview from both Tracey Martin and Corin Dan. No proper explanation at all, and no Tracey Martin, you cannot change your sex!. This issue needed a proper journalist, one who didn't put forth his own opinion but asked for a full factual rendering of the self ID proposal. Nothing about no change in appearance required etc. I will e-mail Corin Dan and tell him precisely what I thought of that miserable performance.

ComputerSaysMo · 25/02/2019 08:42

“Don’t make this overly complicated?” Is that the best he can manage to that question? That’s actually pathetic.

Well done, Kiwi women. Puuullll!

Yeahnahyeah · 25/02/2019 08:34

Programme on now. Sounding like Corin has drunk to Kool aid.....
He asked, do u see that gender is on a spectrum? She replies, well...do u mean gender or sex?
Reply from him "Don't make this overly complicated" lol

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 25/02/2019 07:49

fantastic work NZ women, this has cheered me up no end

once you get the message out about self ID, ordinary people do not want it, they see transgenderism for the sexism that it is

you need to get some sunlight on it

DpWm · 25/02/2019 07:45

This is great news.
I am also worried that our government will just crack on with self-ID as soon (or as late..) as Brexit is over with, because "look at Ireland!".
We need to keep working, it's a cross-party cross-continental issue and it's wonderful to see all these women's groups come together for this issue.

OrchidInTheSun · 25/02/2019 07:44

That is brilliant news! Huge congratulations to all the women who have worked so hard to make this happen SmileSmileSmileSmile

Courday · 25/02/2019 07:39

Well done to Speak Up for Women (and I am sure there are other groups/individuals worthy of praise). Your hard work raising awareness has paid off.
Now, I guess the real hard work starts - ensuring enough sane women participate in the consultation.

OvaHere · 25/02/2019 07:14

Great news

Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 25/02/2019 07:09

Well done sisters

Illyria47 · 25/02/2019 06:57

Thank you Iused2BanOptimist we are feeling a trifle euphoric at the moment but know we have to keep focused.

Iused2BanOptimist · 25/02/2019 06:49
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