Was Hatshepsut transgender?

LOL of course they doubling down on it. If you could just reason people out of batshittery the world would be a far easier place! They can say it on Twitter all day, it still doesn't make it true or any less ridiculous. There are people on Twitter happily chuntering about their angel friends, fairies, alien abductions, Elvis sighting etc.

You would have thought Amnesty would have more important things to be doing with its time........

So, because no one can say what her "gender identity" actually was, Amnesty are confident to claim that she was not "cisgender"....

These people are embarrassing fools. It's just so stupid and so obviously misogynistic.

I came across a transgrab of Elizabeth the First quite a while ago - can't remember where, delusional batshit of course.

Just to cheer everybody up, here is the Horrible Histories Cleopatra song in all its glory.

Well, archaeology is known to involve shovels, so I suppose they thought if they keep digging they might find some artefacts to back up their complete nonsense.

They're doubling down on it now, refusing to listen to anything anyone is saying

I was thinking of the HH Cleopatra song too. "Julius Caesar, he's an okay geezer..."

The fabulous @MaryBeard sometimes posts on Mumsnet. Wonder what she thinks? Although, she's had a horrendous time with vile trolls so may not want to wade into this publicly.

Wasn't the pharaoh believed to be the living embodiment of one of the (male) Gods? (I want to say Osiris). Therefore had to be male - because Osiris was. So when a dynasty threw up a female heir ... she had to whack on a fake beard when she did her sacred duties (like making the sun rise). Nobody - least of all her - thought it was real. It was just a loophole to get round a thorny problem and is evidence of the patriarchal nature of Egyptian royalty and is therefore part of the history of female oppression - and not trans erasure. Though posthumously transing female pharaohs because they worked within the system defined for them is female erasure.

I imagine the reason they let women strap on a fake beard and pretend was because royal blood and preserving the bloodline was so important (hence all the brother/sister marriages) that a male pharaoh would prefer his biological daughter to inherit than some more distant male relative. So even the fact that women could be pharaoh, as long as they promised to cheat, was not so much women's rights as it was service to male dynastic power.

Cleopatra did the same. It's in the horrible histories song:
I am a pharaoh
but they'reoh
meant to be guys
but I don't careoh
I just wearoh
beard disguise.

Seriously, when you can learn a simple fact just by watching a children's television programme, you shouldn't be embarrassing yourself making such ridiculous, inaccurate statements in public.

How do you pronounce Hatshepsut?
'Ha-shap-zoot' according to this video:
(OT: Isn't the internet bloody amazing!)

Just thinking of other people ripe for retrospective transing/helping out of the internalised transphobia closet.

Clearly John Simpson (smuggled into Afghanistan in a burka) and Arnold Schwartznegger (first natal man to get pregnant in Junior ).

We've already had Joan of Arc, but may I also offer you Matilda of Tuscany?

And of course God Almighty, who according to Julian of Norwich (suspicious - nun with bloke's name... surely some potential there) was both our mother and our father, therefore gender fluid.

Are we going to find out that all the women who used their husbands name in their title, eg. Mrs John Smith, were in fact transgender?

Honestly, I cannot cope with this level of fuckwittery.

I’m fairly sure the ancient Egyptian language had no word for a queen regnant, as it was so rare, so she wouldn’t have had much of a choice about what to call herself.

The ancient Egyptians also had and revered a concept called Maat (represented by a woman btw!) which was basically the state of everything being good and stable in the land. Anything out of the ordinary with the ruler would displease Maat and allow for chaos, so it was extremely important for the ruler, whatever their sex, to present themselves as much as possible as the normal status quo. Hatchepsut did have herself depicted as male with the regalia etc and might well have donned the false beard for certain ceremonies, but she was pretty clear she was female. She was aware this might be seen as against Maat which is likely why she had the story of her divine conception added to her mortuary temple.

Disclaimer: not an Egyptologist but interested and have read a lot about her, including Joyce Tyldesley and Kara Cooney’s bios which are both fantastic.

And there was Lady Colin Campbell.....

Oh someone beat me to it with Princess Michael of Kent!

It's ridiculously silly, of course, but it's also contributing to making a mockery of LGBT history by manipulating the story of someone of whom there is zero evidence of being L, B or T. Coupled with the pernicious habit of transing lesbians, thus dissolving actual Lesbian history, this stupid nonsense is not revealing a hidden history, it's entirely fabricating one out of wisps of fantasy and misunderstanding.

I mean, I know these idiots don't understand science, but they clearly haven't got the slightest grasp of history either. It's the cutting edge of scholarship for the incredibly blunt of wit.

Hello Egyptologists! How do you pronounce Hatshepsut?

Cleopatra

I wonder if Anthony was happy with his 7 inch surprise.

Cleopatra, they identified as a rug didn't they?

Princess Michael of Kent - an open trans member of the royal family

What about JK Rowling? She’s used Robert Galbraith. She must be trans.

Also 'JK' is very gender neutral. Maybe she's non binary at least?

What about JK Rowling? She’s used Robert Galbraith. She must be trans.

Floral
Shit, you predicted this!

Uh huh.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3508364-Dr-James-Miranda-Barry?msgid=84932349

What is wrong with these people? I was joking, you completely half witted loons.