GHB is a known date rape drug, and as someone else already pointed out there are very fine margins between safe recreational use and complete unconsciousness (or worse), not that this matters anyway because the victim was a child and that's it. They cannot consent, and they especially cannot consent when messed up by GHB.

Other factors, like a racially motivated crime, are aggravating factors. Misgogyny is a mitigating factor

Good grief this is absolutely right. I knew both those things in isolation but have somehow never put them together. That is a really interesting observation.

I'm feeling very angry today and would like this guy to be shot between the eyes

How is holding beliefs that make you think it's ok to rape a child a mitigating factor ffs? It's a red flag for repeat offending!

Ah, but it’s a female child. Other factors, like a racially motivated crime, are aggravating factors. Misgogyny is a mitigating factor.

“ I punched that P* bastard “ = hate crime, longer sentence

“ I punched that cheating bitch “ = mitigation, shorter sentence

“ I killed that cheating bitch but she consented “ = mitigation, short sentence

“ I drugged and repeatedly raped that girl “ = mitigation, she led you on

"fall over themselves to let me off these crimes"

Oops

MEN

not me

that wasn't a confession

problem is that large sections of society all over the world will fall over themselves to let me off these crimes

and the internet means that there is much more ability of children who are damaged / or just plain curious and wanting to grow up / to come into the path of men who would sexually exploit them

the consent thing > is being used against us to the ma now. we said no rape doesn't just mean violent violation of another mans property. we are people and we have our own preferneces and we need to consent whether its our husband or anyone else
has been morped to
get consent by any means possible and its a green light to anything and everything
tell the court after the event she consented and even if its ludicrously unlikely the ocurts will give you benefit of doubt (woman is dead so her story is not heard)

No matter what 'active' part grooming

Utter bollox. These people are supposed to have brains, get paid shed-loads, oh and theres the minor point of upholding the law. Child sex with adult = adult is rapist

How is holding beliefs that make you think it's ok to rape a child a mitigating factor ffs? It's a red flag for repeat offending!

Unfortunately I think it is fairly standard in society that people with vaginas as standard don't matter as much as people with penises as standard when it comes to rape. That poor child.

TBF even

TFB female children have always been blamed for adult mens actions towards them if they're over about 10 or so.

Nothing
The sad thing is that the overwhelming view on MN where a 12 yo was in a similar situation was that poor fella and the child should be punished through criminal justice system for lying on the app
I despair. What the fuck is happening to boundaries and consent and safeguarding children?!

A Large % of mners on a similar thread about a girl who was on tinder, she was 12 though.

The people who said it would argue that the 12yo girl wasn't raped but was actually the main actor in the situation and the man was her victim.

Who said that children deserved to be raped for being stupid? I thought the age of consent was there BECAUSE children do stupid things without considering the consequences.

Oh i see I was looking for that actual story

hence havign a cruise around pn and seeing it's changed a fair bit

Sorry. I wasn't clear... this type of story e.g. under aged children being abused through Grinder.

They wouldn't touch this specific story with a barge pole.

Examples of similar, but involving boys.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/02/11/boy-grindr-sexual-abuse-tinder/

Havn't clicked on one o ftheir links in ages

it seems to only be about 75% T now with G and a tiny bit of L reported on

That is a big change

How long ago did they do that?
Must be like a year or something?

I'm also surprised that in a piece about hannah mouncey they actually put a photo of hannah playing with a woman in the picture too which made the size differential obvious

It was because the comments were always overwhelmingly providing evidence that the 'tiny minority' not on board were actually about 98% of their LGBTWTF readers.

penis news doesn't seem to allow comments on any trans stories any more?

no debate

The sad thing is that the overwhelming view on MN where a 12 yo was in a similar situation was that poor fella and the child should be punished through criminal justice system for lying on the app

This child is 14 so obviously will be the same, as if you think it's OK for a 12yo then 14 is a big gap.

It bothers me that so many people (women!) want children punished for being children, while men should absolutely be allowed to have sex with them. Even if they're 12. Twelve!

So we have a long way to go with this in society.

I thought that most people thought fuckign kids was a no-no in UK society values.
Turns out I was horribyl wrong and that was a real lesson to learn.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/revealed-the-child-victims-of-dating-apps-p3wfv83ml

Penis News has covered this story to be fair (with mixed comments). Dating apps have got to tighten up their procedures, children are so vulnerable.

As for this rapist piece of shit, and his piece of shit lawyer, I'm so angry. Throw them both in jail with the normal criminals. Let them sort them out.

A typical 14 year old female would be much weaker than a typical 14 year old male, so on reflection I think this miserable coward knew exactly what he was doing and he used the victims transgender status against the child.

I still think rape of a male or female is equally vile but in this instance I think sex and 'gender presentation' might have played into. The man choosing tgis particular target. Vile sum bag.