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Ruth Hunt is leaving Stonewall

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Whatisthisfuckery · 21/02/2019 16:21

Just seen this on Twitter.

twitter.com/ruth_hunt/status/1098604129394585601?s=21

I’d like to think her successor will be less homophobic. We shall see, although I’m not holding out much hope.

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silentcrow · 24/02/2019 01:09

more than 700 trans people.

British trans people?

Some clarity would be lovely.

Weezol · 24/02/2019 00:59

Stonewall became trans-inclusive in 2015, after a six-month consultation with more than 700 trans people.

Were any LGB people consulted?

DoctorTwo · 24/02/2019 00:24

But as ever, we should follow the money and see what happens.

Yup, totally agree.

HamiltonCork · 23/02/2019 21:02

Ruth Hunt will always be remembered for being a complete and utter Judas.

littlbrowndog · 23/02/2019 20:46

Yeah Courday could see that
Why is a lifestyle choice now grouped with LGB

littlbrowndog · 23/02/2019 20:45

Jeez the hatred of hunt from the comments

Like a dam bursting

ChattyLion · 23/02/2019 20:41

OK so that is clear then- the board is perfectly happy with the political principle that they have been promoting.
Meaning that unless the Chair publicly says otherwise, things will be moving in the exact same direction once there is a fresh new face in post. Sad

Courday · 23/02/2019 20:39

"Once LGBT as an acronym is associated with perverts, that's it"

Luckily (as has already been demonstrated) everyone ignores lesbians so we will escape most of the flack but gay men are particularly vulnerable to any backlash (and of course genuine transsexuals, some of whom I have grown to genuinely like during interaction on twitter)
Everyone groups LGBT together and the people leading any backlash are unlikely to differentiate between individual groups.
With a few honourable exceptions gay men should be ashamed of their silence over what has been going on.

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Knicknackpaddyflak · 23/02/2019 19:11

Commitment to integrate trans communities into our work....

Ffs, the trans ideology is actively homophobic and works against the right and acceptance of LGB people to same sex relationships. You cannot integrate homophobia into the LGB movement, you might as well say you're going to integrate a horse meat factory chain into your horse rescue work.

Hostile take over, colonisation, appropriation and 'change from the inside' and phrases like that would be appropriate. You have an organisation being abandoned by LGB funders in horror, while inside it, heterosexual men are calling themselves lesbians and abusing lesbian women who use the word or maintain their right to sexual preference excluding penises. It's abusive batshit.

Ruth was all for it being all about the abusive batshit. The charity are clearly committed to the continuation of abusive batshittery - and the returned 11% funding will come from a very different source to the funding they have lost. Its very positive that LGB people with money and profile are starting to stand up and say this is mad, and this movement is no friend to women or to LGB people.

silentcrow · 23/02/2019 19:10

And also what's the board's role and position in all this?

It would be worth looking at these people and their links/past posts. A casual glance shows me the NSPCC, Amnesty, and "time spent in Vancouver", for example. I mean, it may all be completely innocent, who knows. The third sector is as incestuous as any other, with people hopping organisations constantly for perfectly good reasons. But as ever, we should follow the money and see what happens.

RedToothBrush · 23/02/2019 18:57

Is that true of just spin by the times on why Hunt left?

Don't get me wrong, I'd like that to be the case, but unless it's stated explicitly by someone who is involved directly and is prepared to go on record saying it, I have to take with a pinch of salt.

What the Times has done on the subject is great but I do wonder...

WeAreGerbil · 23/02/2019 18:42

And also what's the board's role and position in all this? Many of them appear to be business people in high powered roles rather than TRAs or the blue hair brigade, www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/who-we-are-1

youllhavehadyourtea · 23/02/2019 18:40

Football managers always have the backing of the board too.....

EweSurname · 23/02/2019 18:39

Although there’s also this

Sources said Hunt, who will be leaving in August after five years at the helm, retains the full backing of the board. Gooding said she had “significantly transformed Stonewall for the better”.

EweSurname · 23/02/2019 18:37

Wow! This is explicit about her being chased away then

The chief executive of the campaign group Stonewall, Ruth Hunt, has resigned after a growing protest by leading gay and lesbian supporters against her stance on promoting transgender rights.

OvaHere · 23/02/2019 18:33

The article seems to suggest that Hunt resigned due to increasing criticism, as Janice Turner also hinted at. I'm surprised because I haven't seen any evidence of anything but her doubling down but who knows what the real story is?

Cwenthryth · 23/02/2019 18:32

Wow that is pretty damning.

TimeLady · 23/02/2019 18:26

That's quite an explicit article

"Many other longstanding supporters of Stonewall, including transsexuals, share our concerns and dismay that the very organisation we helped to fund and turn into the ‘go to’ LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender] authority, advising political parties and corporates, is now telling schoolchildren that a bearded man with a penis can be a lesbian and any girls and boys deviating from 1950s gender norms are in the wrong body.”

OvaHere · 23/02/2019 18:25

Thanks TimeLady, will now read the rest.

OvaHere · 23/02/2019 18:25

Can only read a few lines of that article but it's heartening to know that financial supporters have been backing off in light of Stonewall's lunacy.

Melroses · 23/02/2019 18:22

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/stonewall-drives-away-backers-with-trans-agenda-t9jqfhc60

New article (sorry, I haven't got a subscription. Need one badly)

Mumfun · 23/02/2019 18:21

Hunt has done a Cameron. Got out before the shit storm hits.

RedToothBrush · 23/02/2019 17:46

i've heard a rumour that little owen jones is intending to stand in Stockport to replace Anne Coffey. It won't be him.

Hahahahaha

Amazing.

Mr working class Oxford Educated Socialism himself parachuting in, just cos his Daddy was in Labour and the unions in Stockport once upon a time would ruffle more than a few feathers.

If you wanted someone who was more Liberal elite London bubble and the antithesis of 'northern labour' thinking you'd struggle to find them.

If you wanted to motivate a small army to assist Anne Coffey's reelection then standing Mr 1984 would be a recruitment gift.

Honestly, how is he going to campaign when he's blocked most of twitter after he's offended them and they've responded in kind or after people have called him out of his hypocrisy and plain old fashion bollocks and weak as fuck straw man arguments?

It'd be hilarious if it weren't so tradgic.

Even if he won the seat, he has the potential to lose half a dozen other seats in the process.

I honestly can't think of many Labour leaning people who are as divisive as Corbyn - apart from Jones.

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