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The National Lottery Fund will fund Mermaids - review published

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HandsOffMyRights · 19/02/2019 14:59

The National Lottery Community Fund (@TNLComFund) Tweeted:
Our review of proposed Mermaids UK funding is now complete. You can read our statement and a report on the review at: t.co/T7NCJuNcme twitter.com/TNLComFund/status/1097869829212643329?s=17

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Manderleyagain · 19/02/2019 15:42

Itsallgoingtobefine. Rosa freedman did a twitter thread a while ago on the yogyakarta principles and how they did not become law.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/02/2019 15:38

On the bright side the report seems to conclude that Mermaids is a bit lacking in several areas of concern, and it looks like there are going to be additional conditions attached to their grant.

It is a very comprehensive review, and quite an interesting read.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 19/02/2019 15:36

Incorrect. There are three sources of international law: conventions, treaties and custom.

States are not obliged to observe "principles".

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 19/02/2019 15:36

How the fuck have social and psychological aspects got anything to do with what sex we end up? It might have been suggested, you fools, but that doesn't mean you have to believe it.

DpWm · 19/02/2019 15:35

FFS that report

Allegation a) Supporting illegal doctors
Mermaids denies this Allegation.

Allegation b) eg encouraging mixed sex loos/changing rooms
Mermaids denies this Allegation

Allegation c)
Eg Encouraging procedures outside of NHS guidelines
Mermaids denies this Allegation....

FFS of course Mermaids deny all the allegations!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/02/2019 15:35

"In this context, an organisation which promoted a medical pathway above all other
options would not be an appropriate recipient of our grants. Mermaids have reaffirmed
their position that they are young person centred and do not encourage, influence or
direct young people or their families to pursue any one pathway. Furthermore, Mermaids
does not present in their promotional material as a charity that focuses on medical
treatment or provides medical advice. " Hmm

AyeRobot · 19/02/2019 15:33

Exactly, nauticant

At least reviews are being forced to happen and one day...

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/02/2019 15:32

"The Yogyakarta Principles of 2006 are a universal guide to human rights which affirm
binding international legal standards with which all States must comply"

This is incorrect no?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/02/2019 15:31

Oh FFS

" It is suggested that sex and gender come about through a combination of biological,
social and psychological aspects of life that build our individual identity and that when
we begin to investigate who we are and the gender we feel ourselves to be, things can
become very complex"

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/02/2019 15:30

They were never likely to withdraw the grant, but the exposure and bad publicity has damaged Mermaids reputation, has surrounded it in the suspicion it deserves

Exactly, the public now know what is going on, people are now informed and can take steps to help their children.

This is why it's so so important to talk, It will be the public that will protect children, not the charities, clubs and government.

nauticant · 19/02/2019 15:30

Look at it this way. When the scandal of young people mutilated in the cause of an ideology breaks a few years from now, there'll be less scope for the "how were we supposed to know all wasn't fine?" excuses that just about everyone will be keen to hide behind.

One thing we can do is get organisations to make "in spite of the concerns we think it's all fine" decisions, rather than just suiting themselves with no one watching.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 19/02/2019 15:30

I believe the money will be handed out in 5 tranches with reviews in between. I guess it may still be possible to partially reverse this

DpWm · 19/02/2019 15:25

They were never likely to withdraw the grant, but the exposure and bad publicity has damaged Mermaids reputation, has surrounded it in the suspicion it deserves, and therefore it's only a matter of time.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/02/2019 15:25

We are not powerless

We are not, we have the power to keep tlaking, and keep informing.

Laws will come in, but laws only work if the public are willing to follow them.

Bittermints · 19/02/2019 15:22

Owen Jones thinks it's marvellous. Quelle surprise.

HandsOffMyRights · 19/02/2019 15:22

Is the actual review available anywhere Handsoff?

If you scroll down after their news release (on the Lottery website) you can download the review.

Not braved it yet. Still in shock despite this being a fait accompli.

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lizzzyyliveson · 19/02/2019 15:21

We are not powerless. Jean Hatchet this week got Three to take down their awful advert using Henry the 8th by putting pressure on them. Women buy Lottery tickets. We need to stop buying them and start telling the company why. If you get a Lottery advert in your Twitter feed that would be a good place to start. If you have an account, cancel it and let them know why.

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VickyEadie · 19/02/2019 15:17

I'm sickened by this and by Mermaids in general.

Meanwhile, the BBC features on its website an article about how wonderful 'Desmond is amazing' being an 11-year-old drag queen is.

It's like there's some massive plot to enable the abuse of children and we're all powerless in the face of it.

happydappy2 · 19/02/2019 15:09

Glad this is posted on here-it is just sickening that National Lottery are giving so much cash to Mermaids, without doing any due diligence checks on the potential harm, trans ideology does to children.....so depressing, no screening out of ASD kids or other mental health issues, just fast track to transition even though it most likely won't bring you happiness.

lottiebel123 · 19/02/2019 15:08

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Angryresister · 19/02/2019 15:05

Is the actual review available anywhere Handsoff?

HandsOffMyRights · 19/02/2019 15:04

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/02/2019 15:03

Anyone who thought the outcome would be otherwise hasn't quite grasped that this is being pushed from above, self ID will happen regardless of public opinion.

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