FPFW disinvited from discussing Martina's comments on 5Live

Doesn't matter. Feedback covers all BBC Radio output, all national networks and local radio.

this was Radio 5 Live, though, wasn't it?

There is also R4 Feedback which unlike Points of View on the telly takes complants seriously.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1WbP92b6YbpP9j4mwwbtc9Q/contact-us

The BBC are very good at misunderstand complaints

Yes, the are. I complained multiple times to them a couple of years ago about an astonishingly sexist way of reporting a particularly tragic issue. All the replies were of a similar vein to this -oh, we didn’t mean it that way. We’ll try not to do it again, but it’s not that big a deal really. Fuckers!

Thanks for getting in touch with us about Stephen Nolan broadcast on the 17th February.

We’ve raised your concerns with our colleagues at 5 live and they clarify that:

“Guests do not have the power to veto another guest’s appearance. We invited Dr Williams to appear on Sunday night’s programme and after initially agreeing to join us at a later point in the show she subsequently declined. The offer remains open.”

We hope this explains our position and we’d like to thank you again for taking the time to contact us about this.

Yeah I complained to bbc about using the phrase “ assigned at birth”

They said they had looked at my complaint and felt assigned at birth was ok
Fuckers

The BBC are very good at misunderstand complaints.

And appearing on live radio at 10.30 pm is no different from being shunted onto the after midnight slot.

Yeah I’ve had that reply too. Doesn’t address my question of whether the resulting segment met impartiality standards

Slip shod, half arsed reply

Follow up complaint coming up

i've had a response to my complain and I'm fuming - it's exactly what I guessed it would be:

'Guests do not have the power to veto anopther guest's appearance. We invited Dr Williams to appear on Sunday night's programme and after initially agreeing to join us at a later poinbt in the show she subsequently declined. The offer remains open.'

Fucking weasels. They know damn well that they did allow McKinnon to veto Nic appearing at the same time as RM in order to debate Martina's comments, and are wriggling out of it on a technicality.

Complain #2 coming up when I get home.

Listened. Nice as ever great but omg Miranda pulled no punches at all

Said wasn’t buying into the delusion that a mans body can turn into a woman’s body

ErrolTheDragon

"Spot the glaring omission in a list of who Madigan thinks should be allowed to talk about women's sports"

There is a certain pattern emerging here - let me try to join the dots over a nice cup of Darjeeling

Chinny reckon, Madigan. Chinny reckon.

Explained to them that good reporting means talking to sports scientists & trans people in sports

Yes, by all means but ...and...??

Spot the glaring omission in a list of who Madigan thinks should be allowed to talk about women's sports.

It looks as though our favourite Labour "lesbian" is up to their usual tricks again, suggesting that Madigan was invited by the BBC to talk about "transwomen in sports" with a "transphobe"

twitter.com/lesbianleftie/status/1098181173388476416

3 males agreeing with themselves about who should be allowed to compete in women's sport and that Martina Navratilova is transphobic and should she be sacked? Not cool.

God, the utter tossers.

A mediocre cheat who insists biological men are biological women, over one of the most beloved and inspirational athletes ever.

They deserve all that's coming.

Do you get many members of the KKK in the UK?

I've complained too. I look forward to a reply informing me that there were not three males sitting discussing it, because TWAW. In which case I shall write back to thank them for proving my point that they are enacting a compulsory political and religious doctrine instead of being impartial and balanced, and this ends their right to any public funding. The massive majority of society are fully aware that TW are male, this point of view is not going to change, and when interviews like this are seen through the eyes of someone who perceives them as male, those interviews are indefensible.

As a side note: McKinnon's reference to the KKK. I know TRAs are famed for utterly tone deaf, offensive appropriation without conscience, but for fucks sake. We're talking about people, real people, who lived with their houses being smashed into at night, people dragged from their beds and lynched, burned alive. I'd love to hear what one of those survivors thinks of McKinnon trivialising and using their history to add high drama to their high drama. Those communities were not terrorised by people writing polite letters, pointing out facts and discussing current law, and they'd have laughed in your face if you'd suggested to them that this was 'literal violence'.

Just submitted my first ever complaint to the BBC.

I fear it won't be the last of 2019.

3 males agreeing with themselves about who should be allowed to compete in women's sport and that Martina Navratilova is transphobic and should she be sacked? Not cool.

I had a look back through my collection of BBC complaints today

3 of them relate to discussions about things important to women being carried out with no actual women present

1. the GRA discussion in Victoria Derbyshire. Admittedly they did have female who identifies as a man on the panel, but unlikely to provide balanced views

2. the Sophie Cook Newsnight Womxn cluster fuck

3. this latest cock up

if you can't see sex you can't see sexism. and by god, the BBC can't see sexism these days. women have been subject to the views of men taking precedence over their own for quite some time now. good to see the BBC continuing the tradition

Manage those expectations teawamutu 😕

In my complaint I did point out the optics of having no biological woman in the discussion. Can't wait to see if they address it...