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Trans Teen Survival Guide by Fox and Owl

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womensvoicesmatter · 16/02/2019 15:28

I was curious what's being peddled to teens, so I got the book. I'm only a few pages in and pretty horrified, so I thought I'd share it with you lot.

(This might take some time though, I don't have a lot of free time right now!)

Even the inscription is enraging. The book is dedicated to their trans friend who committed suicide. It's not a subtle few words, it's a whol page including a cartoon of this person with a halo. And it says the book is based on the blog they wrote on tumblr.

While of course I'm sad for Fox and Owl that their friend died, and I recognise that to lose someone to suicide is a terrible trauma I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, I also think it's deeply irresponsible to start a book aimed at teenagers, lauding someone who killed themselves - especially given the popular myths and misuse of suicide stats about trans kids.

It makes me suspicious of the book before we've even started. What kind of propaganda lies within?

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FloralBuntingIsObnoxious · 16/02/2019 15:57

They've 'swapped' gender roles, taken hormones and had surgery. Initially they were your basic trans MTF and FTM, but we're talking about popular high priests of Genderism, so it wouldn't do to have the same designation as the masses.
So they assume the title Non Binary, and no doubt will go through any number of other further transcending transformations as the ideology shifts to maintain their position.

womensvoicesmatter · 16/02/2019 15:51

Next up, gender & sex - but must go look after the DC first. (This is going to be slow, sorry!)

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womensvoicesmatter · 16/02/2019 15:49

Then more stuff about it's up to you if you're trans.

Those who aren't sure if they're trans are directed to well known indoctrination channels to make sure they're trans information sources e.g. a trans "support group", trans people on tumblr, youtube and instagram, to see if their stories "resonate".

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/02/2019 15:46

Because they are special 🙄

calpop · 16/02/2019 15:46

Aren't fox and owl the nale and female in a relationship together? i.e a bog standard hetero couple?

Why are they speaking for trans people?

womensvoicesmatter · 16/02/2019 15:44

There's a simplified version of the trans umbrella with MASSIVE black "cis" raindrops falling down on it.

Well done that trans umbrella, for protecting all the readers of this book from those scary cis people raining down on them!

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/02/2019 15:43

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womensvoicesmatter · 16/02/2019 15:41

Gah! Should say:

They're trying to welcome in every kids who feels a bit different, aren't they?

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womensvoicesmatter · 16/02/2019 15:40

First page of chapter 1. Are they going to tell us what trans is? Well not really, if you feel a bit different you're trans, basically. Or, you're trans if you want to be. Everybody welcome! (Just not those awful cis people, but you wouldn't want to be one of them - would you? But I'm jumping ahead, that comes later... )

Let's try to figure out what being trans actually is and what it actually means.

Sounds promising - yes, a definition please! Oh but sorry, my mistake, definitions are bad, apparently...

The trouble with providing definitions and ticking boxes is that it leads to oversimplification. There isn't a single definitive answer to the question of what it means to be trans, because there is no one way to be trans! There are so many trans people and they are so diverse that there isn't a universal experience that is more trans or truly trans.

Gender is a complicated social construct, and trying to define it, or people within it, is quite hard! So let this be a guide - or an offering of possibilities - to what it might or might not mean to you. But just remember that ultimately it's you who defines who you are, whether that's as a trans person or not. The short answer, though is this: Trans people are people who don't identify with the gender that they were assigned at birth

They continue into the "long answer" which includes a load more waffle, such as

"It's a bit like you signed up for a French Class, but when you got there everyone is speaking Spanish. Something just isn't the way it should be. So, essentially, being trans means you aren't actually the boy or girl everyone seems to think you are, It means that your inner sense of self - your gender identity - is something different. Whether it's that you're actually a girl, or a boy, or a non-binary (people who aren't fully boys or girls), and the main thing is that you're not what most people think you are."

"Something just isn't the way it should be. So, essentially, being trans means you aren't actually the boy or girl everyone seems to think you are," Doesn't that just describe teenage angst?! They're trying to welcome in ever kids who feels a bit different, aren't they?

Nowhere (as far as I can see so far) does it say - feeling different from other people and unsure of your body is a NORMAL part of puberty as is rejecting gender norms. It doesn't mean you're trans!

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OhHolyJesus · 16/02/2019 15:38

It already sounds deeply irresponsible. Intrigued to know more so thanks in advance for sharing details as I sure as hell won't be buying it and filling their pockets for to further their 'activism' 🙄