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"Shag, Marry or Behead" - 3 mobile

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Jeanhatchet · 14/02/2019 06:57

The 3 mobile network are laughing at domestic homicide in this tweet. In many of the women killed as a result of intimate partner violence blunt force trauma to or being stabbed in the head is a feature.

The most worrying thing is .... how did this marketing meeting go? What views were expressed about killing women? How that was funny and would sell more contracts and phones? Imagine those men who sanctioned this and how common their views are that it never registered as a marketing disaster?

twitter.com/threeuk/status/1095740892919541761?s=21

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RockyFlintstone · 14/02/2019 11:26

But we are talking about Henry VIII here, one of the most famous historical figures of the UK, famous for having loads of wives and treating them appallingly, including chopping their heads off, which was a standard method for a monarch at that time to deal with anyone they didn't like. Kids grow up knowing that Henry had two of his wives 'beheaded', it's part of British historical culture, and it was 500 years ago.

Also, not sure what Terry Deary having controversial views about libraries has to do with the fact that lots of kids love Horrible Histories and it provides a really fun way of children engaging with all sorts of history. I shall wait for the boycott of the books and TV show on the grounds that it 'promotes violence against women'.

By the way, my reference to kids and Henry VIII has nothing to do with kids taking out phone contracts, I was just pointing out that the stories about Henry and his wives are pretty ingrained in British historical culture, starting with when kids learn about it at school, usually in a lighthearted way.

MargueritaPink · 14/02/2019 11:19

I take it you were also offended when Emilia Clarke played “shag, marry, kill” based on the male characters of Game of Thrones

I don't know what this is referring to but why would you assume anyone would be happy with it just because the sexes are reversed?

Oxytocindeficient · 14/02/2019 11:11

Nope, standards are always the same for all. Make dumb comments unrelated to the thread, and you’ll be responded to in exactly the way you deserve. It’s not my problem you’re incapable of discussing the actual topic. Your lack of intelligence is your problem, not mine.

SnowflakePatrol · 14/02/2019 11:06

Double standards as usual, so I’ve to “bore off”. Typical come back.

Oxytocindeficient · 14/02/2019 10:56

I don’t care if it’s intended as a ‘joke’. Women get killed every week and it is not remotely funny. Comedy is meant to be clever. Who is the target of this ‘joke’ exactly? It’s not funny, it’s not clever, and it’s not ok.

Oxytocindeficient · 14/02/2019 10:53

SnowflakePatrol

Oh please bore off.

SnowflakePatrol · 14/02/2019 10:14

Hi Jean,

I take it you were also offended when Emilia Clarke played “shag, marry, kill” based on the male characters of Game of Thrones.

nauticant · 14/02/2019 10:13

Whenever I see talk of Horrible Histories, I'm reminded of this:

www.theguardian.com/books/2013/feb/13/libraries-horrible-histories-terry-deary

Basically he's not a fan of libraries because it cuts into the cash he'd get. When he's already very wealthy.

placemats · 14/02/2019 09:28

I know of no child who sets up a mobile contract. Most have their parents do it. 'Horrible Histories' is aimed at the primary school child and, quite frankly, I think making fun of violence at that age is shocking.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 14/02/2019 09:25

Too soon - not even 500 years has passed.

plattercake · 14/02/2019 09:23

I don't find it funny.

How can it be a joke when this kind of violence and misogyny still happens every day?

RockyFlintstone · 14/02/2019 09:19

So I guess people are totally against teaching the Tudors in school in anything but the most serious of ways and against the Horrible Histories books and TV show? Because it's basically a similar tone to this ad, just aimed at children.

Jeanhatchet · 14/02/2019 09:14

If you do find this ad an unacceptable contribution to the social landscape that leads to the murder of women being considered "funny" you can report it here - it takes 2 mins tops but take a quick screenshot to upload as evidence of the ad.

www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint.html

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SonicVersusGynaephobia · 14/02/2019 09:04

No, it's not "just a joke". It's making a light about a man causing a partner a violent death, at a time when too many men are actually doing this for real, every week.

placemats · 14/02/2019 09:04

Honestly, isn't it just a joke?

Emphatically, NO!

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 14/02/2019 09:01

Looking at some of Three's replies to tweets, they have knobheads running their twitter account.

hotwing · 14/02/2019 09:01

Honestly, isn't it just a joke?

Jeanhatchet · 14/02/2019 08:58

@Lolkittens5

Of course there is nothing funny about men murdering women. They do it for real twice a week usually. That's sort of the whole point of the post. You clearly can't see how it links up so I can't see the point in trying to make you see.

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Lolkittens5 · 14/02/2019 08:50

Sorry OP but there’s nothing funny in what you just posted.

Why would you assume I’d find a description of a crime funny?

Whatisthisfuckery · 14/02/2019 08:48

Sadly I can see a certain type of man flicking through Tinder with their mates and doing this for a laugh, which I assume to be the aim. Adverts are supposed to be memorable in some way are they not?

Shag marry behead was more of a chronology for Henry VIII anyway, so it doesn’t even work in that context.

Just shows what kind of people they have in their boardrooms I’m afraid. Violent misogynistic creeps.

Jeanhatchet · 14/02/2019 08:47

@Lolkittens5

This is the story of Alice Ruggles - her ex partner stalked her relentlessly and eventually slashed her throat from ear to ear.

Crucial to this - and something you may find "funny" - is the fact that as he lay in wait for her he was flicking through Tinder trying to set up his next "date".

Maybe this is how life and "art" of "comedy" intersect and why this type of advert offends me.

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/alice-ruggles-murder-trial-obsessed-12947680

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placemats · 14/02/2019 08:46

Horrific on all counts and I agree with Jean:

When we ignore the way society normalises male violence against women and laugh at it .... we make sure someone turns their back when a woman is beaten. That's the reality.

Having the view that male violence against women, the murders of women and/or their children is not a joke is not to equate with 'snowflakes'. It's a serious issue that doesn't require 'humour'.

Oxytocindeficient · 14/02/2019 08:40

Jean Hatchet is giving them grief, good for her. I find this so wrong I can’t believe anyone thinks it’s ok.

Bowlofbabelfish · 14/02/2019 08:36

Imagine if there had been an ISIS killing while this ad ran. I’m very surprised this got out of the gate for that alone

Lolkittens5 · 14/02/2019 08:34

Telling jokes or laughing at a joke (in the media or not) does not make a person or society unable to recognise and condemn abusive behaviour.

I think it’s a very lazy argument to explain why domestic violence happens and just perpuates the stereotype of feminists lacking a sense of humour.

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