"Shag, Marry or Behead" - 3 mobile

I can't think offhand of black humour 'comedy violence' which actually works in which the victim is weak and/or innocent. (Never seen Fargo ...)

I love South Park and Black Mirror and used to love The Day Today and Jam. Some of the humour was pretty uncomfortable but it was also subversive.

This joke is lazy and not at all subversive. The man comes out on top still; he's the one in control, swiping the women, choosing their fate. Women face structural sexism - men do tend to come out on top and choose the fate (see the shocking number of rape cases that even get to trial for example).

If structural sexism had ended with the Tudors then it could have been a great historical joke. If the joke hinged on how being an abusive male makes you a pathetic unlovable twat maybe that could have saved it too.

Yes, thank you Jean for highlighting this. xx

I know must get ready for my holiday departure.

That should have read that was one of the scary bits of the film.

thanks Jean, as ever vigilant against violence against women.

They deleted the tweet.

I hope 3 Mobile has apologised, given a reason for the deletion and accepted the inappropriateness of this tweet.

Ah I see all the young, white, mc ladboys have turned up to tell us all we're being silly. Come back in 30 years when youve seen your daughters abused and maybe even killed by men and tell us then how acceptable it is and how its only a harmless joke. God im sick of this shit.

This is corporate marketing. It's not a random loser making a joke about violence against women.

But black humour always has a serious message underlining the humour. I get black humour.

If this message had a black humour tinge to it then it would be acceptable. Except it doesn't.

The black humour in Fargo wasn't at all the deposition of Steve Buchemi's body. That was the the scary bit of the film.

If you don’t like it you can complain or cancel your contract.

Which is exactly what some women are doing, so why are people rocking up on FWR to tell us off for complaining? are we not supposed to discuss and publicise things that others here may have an interest in?

Re 'black humour' ... it's not really even that, just a rather nasty banal grey. Proper black humour has bite and wit.

It looks like it's been deleted now anyhow.

Everything Lolkittens said.

It’s black humour. Like when Steve Buchemi gets put into the wood chipper in Fargo. Or most things in “Its always sunny in Philadelphia” or “South Park” or even”horrible histories”.

If you don’t like it you can complain or cancel your contract.

What’s the difference between a baby and a feminist?

A baby will grow up one day and stop crying.

...And the hand is shown.

Yep. Silly immature feminists. Whining about the trivialization of domestic violence. Taking issue with the murder of women being turned into a joke. Sheesh. Such babies. /s

opps my post no longer makes sense. Ignore.

Crying has nothing to do with babies. Crying is a functional part of human nature. I have cried when close friends and relatives have died.

You don't understand jokes.

Oh ffs. We know it's meant to be a joke.

Being a joke isn't an acceptable excuse for nastiness. 'Just banter' often really isn't ok for those who are its targets.

I think it’s a very lazy argument to explain why domestic violence happens and just perpuates the stereotype of feminists lacking a sense of humour

The point being made is not that adverts like this cause domestic violence. Nobody has said that. The point is this attitude trivialises domestic violence - that domestic violence is a bit of a giggle - it's not like real violence.

I am not a feminist yet I can see this and I don't find this advert funny.

Some jokes are offensive doesn’t make them not jokes. Some people don’t ‘get’ jokes doesn’t make it not a joke.

Thank you for that extensive explanation.

Some jokes are offensive doesn’t make them not jokes.

Some people don’t ‘get’ jokes doesn’t make it not a joke.

• right so is your sense of humour the standard that is set by society?

If you get offended by something is everyone else not allowed to see/hear it?*

No. Each of us has our own standards which, in the case of advertising material, may inform whether or not we want to give a business our custom.

Free speech works both ways ... we have the right to object to material making light of violence against women.

I don't get an email with the @.

Waste of your passive aggressiveness.

Please explain how you recognise this as a joke.

Is there a difference between horrible jokes and a joke?

I didn’t and don’t care and would never have assumed the people making the jokes were doing it at the expense of the men, women and children who died or got injured.

I would assume they were absolute shits of the highest order and should be avoided at all costs.

Please explain how you recognise the intent as a joke.