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'Women Trans* Femme Workshop

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QuietContraryMary · 12/02/2019 15:31

Anyone able to make any head or tail out of this?

bicas.org/women-trans-femme/

"Women Trans Femme (WTF) hours are open to anyone who identifies as female, transgender, femme, genderqueer, trans-masculine, trans-feminine, or feels that their socialization or treatment as a woman, transperson, &/or femme has impeded their participation in bicycle mechanics."

"This space is for:
Women: A person who identifies as a woman.

Trans* People: Transgender, genderqueer, gender non-conforming, gender creative, anyone whose gender identity is fluid, transgressive, and/or transitioning.

Femme: A person of any gender who embodies a “feminine” appearance, expression, or identity, including those who identify as femmes, fairies, sissies, mariposas, mariquitas, or any expression which counters or challenges “traditional” masculinity."

They add

"If you are not WTF identified, BECOME AN ALLY:"

I very much like the idea of WTF-identified. As 'WTF was that shit I just read?'

Is it just me who finds the whole thing a bit confusing, as in - is 'WTF' different in terms of who it is targeting from 'W'? If there are 10,000 bike mechanics in America, and only 100 of them are women, and then say, 300,000 blokes who repair their own bikes, and 3,000 women, or whatever it is, then isn't 'W' the priority. I mean you don't have to exclude T, from a W bike mechanic workshop, it just seems a bit odd saying 'WTF'.

After all the average (male) bike mechanic probably has longer hair so is a bit 'F' anyway?

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Yambabe · 12/02/2019 20:19

Aside: I can bake a mean cookie AND repair my own bicycle. Actually, having given it some thought, I may have found my people here......

Yambabe · 12/02/2019 20:17

So they basically employ a couple of females, run bicycle repair shops for anyone and advertise them with a load of gobbledegook because inclusive, and socialise (according to the fb page) by doing a "cookie bake and crafts" evening, because even bicycle-repair-girls need to conform to feminine stereotypes when they're not repairing bicycles!

Pft. WTF indeed.

NeurotrashWarrior · 12/02/2019 20:07

(Back story for greb: )

NeurotrashWarrior · 12/02/2019 20:05

Gender creative is when all the rainbow shades get mushed together into the carpet. I believe it's called greb.

CrazyCrunk · 12/02/2019 18:39

I'm gender creative, I wear willy shaped dildos like deely boppers 🍆🍆

ErrolTheDragon · 12/02/2019 18:30

'Gender creative' seems to be throwing the baby (actual sex) out with the bath water (gender stereotypes). The woker version of normal gc parenting.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/gender-creative-parents-what-to-knowukk_5acb5696e4b0337ad1e9f726

LuggsaysNotaWomen · 12/02/2019 18:21

Can someone explain "gender creative" to me please?

I don’t know but to be honest if it includes goggly eyes and PVA glue, I’m probably all for it as long as I’m allowed to glue my hand and peel it off.

FloralBunting · 12/02/2019 18:16

Ah, no, that's Marisota apparently.

FloralBunting · 12/02/2019 18:15

Isn't Mariposa a sort of Kays clothing catalogue type thing?

NoseringGirl · 12/02/2019 17:46

This has to be satire...?! Hmm

ErrolTheDragon · 12/02/2019 17:31

Or alternatively ... they could try running their workshops non-sexistly all the time. HmmThis is the sort of thing which really shouldn't have to be segregated by sex or gender. The notes on what 'allies' should and shouldn't do - most of those should be normal civilised behaviour all the time.

AbsintheFriends · 12/02/2019 17:30

Nauticant, that link!

In a “Self Care for Social Justice Advocates” workshop, meanwhile, students are encouraged to attend if they “feel like the more ‘woke’ [they] become, the more stressed [they] are,” exploring “the ways that social advocacy adds to [their] stress and how to more fully integrate ‘rest.’”

Once again, good heavens.

GerryblewuptheER · 12/02/2019 17:20

Am I the only one who would stand reading the sign on the door wondering if I could actually go in? Confused

Wtf indeed

Hamster00 · 12/02/2019 17:19

Can someone explain "gender creative" to me please? Is that like a 'build your own gender' thing - like a kit? Hmm

Racecardriver · 12/02/2019 17:14

Surely it would have just been easier to say ‘no blokes please’

AbsintheFriends · 12/02/2019 17:14

I was 100% certain it was a spoof until I clicked on the link and found that they seem to be in earnest.

Good heavens.

nauticant · 12/02/2019 17:07

Can you imagine if they ran workshops for 'people of color, including those who identify as '

The thing about this stuff is if you imagine something bonkers, it's already happened for real:

www.campusreform.org/?ID=9557

In irony-is-dead news, they actually use the term wokeshop.

R0wantrees · 12/02/2019 16:26

I remember going on a short 'car maintenence for women' course not long after I'd passed my test 20+ years ago.
It was great fun, the bloke who ran it was brilliant. We all learned what we wanted and had a good laugh.
(It didn't come with many Do's and Don'ts)

WTF indeed!

QuietContraryMary · 12/02/2019 16:24

JellySlice, the funny thing is it seems to be just 'W'

www.facebook.com/pg/bicaswtf/photos/

It does say at the bottom 'This project is supported in part by donors of the LGBT&S Alliance Fund, a fund held at the Community Foundation for Southern Arizona'

So perhaps they virtue signal about 'WTF' and then spend it on 'W'.

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Mrskeats · 12/02/2019 16:22

Humans are doomed.

QuietContraryMary · 12/02/2019 16:18

Apparently mariposa and mariquita are Spanish slurs.

www.reddit.com/r/Spanish/comments/3abc4g/how_do_i_call_myself_gay_in_spanish/

Though possibly some people have 'reclaimed' them.

Can you imagine if they ran workshops for 'people of color, including those who identify as '

You know, just in case you didn't realise you didn't feel included enough by the 'people of color' bit.

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JellySlice · 12/02/2019 16:18

they have set up a training workshop for anyone female or feminine who might be intimidated or put off going to a largely male workshop.
I'm not really seeing an issue.

I am.

anyone who identifies as female, - probably male. Women do not 'identify as' female, we simply are female.
transgender, - male or wannabe male.
trans-masculine, - wannabe male
trans-feminine - male

Looks like the workshop is going to be 'largely male' in any case.

It's a kind thing to do.
Oh yes, female socialisation.

LangCleg · 12/02/2019 16:12

WTF Wokeshop

I am going to die laughing.

I can't even make a bad taste joke because my eyes are full of tears and I can barely see to type.

nauticant · 12/02/2019 16:05

'Women Trans* Femme Workshop = WTF Wokeshop

Yes, that sounds about right.

LuggsaysNotaWomen · 12/02/2019 15:57

Well I changed my car tyre yesterday with nowt but my smarts and shitty Jack that was impossible to work. I identify as a Daddy Long Legs. Where was my fucking workshop?!