Womb transplants for trans women are a human right, says surgeon

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6710751/Transgender-women-birth-time-thanks-pioneering-womb-transplants.html this suggests it might get the go ahead.

Because the donors are trans, I would have thought it necessary to be explicit.

Optimist your email etc doesn't necessarily matter, its a combination and would also be the IP address you are posting from, which tracks you geographically,but all your data is linked now by the device you use. As in, you sign onto your account on your device and everything is logged against that.

This might have been covered earlier, but I'm a bit confused about the mechanics of this? Given it would have to be IVF how would they get someone else's fertilised embryo in there? Presume SRS needed?

No organ transplant is a ‘right’ for the recipient - each one is a gift from someone.

Re Coach and police visits. How do the police find posters who are anonymous?
I am careful to use a non regular non identifying email address for social media. Different for different sites. Never give a telephone number. Stay anonymous and try not to post anything identifying. So I'd like to know how so many posters have been identified?

Possibly the authors assumed that it would be obvious that only female bodies could accept a uterus, and I think a PP noted that transplants can only be offered to bodies which have space for the organ in the first instance, otherwise it would not be a transplant but an implant.

I might be getting that last bit wrong but I think most medics would simply assume that people would know it would be to a female recipient.

Its a major flaw in the study that its not explicit about the recipients of donated uteri.

I assume the idea here is that these uteri would be used as organs for donation to other natal women though. I'm not saying it's necessarily a good idea even in that case, but there seems to be no suggestion this would be anything other than organ donation between two natal women? Or am I missing something?

Apologies if this has already been posted, I haven't read every page on this thread.

This extract - from a MedicalJournal in 2017 - was posted on twitter.
It's from a paper considering using uteri removed from FtM.
Chilling.

Thank you for following this through. First, and at its most simple, it is an attempt to use police forces to bully.

But second free speech is vital to a civilised society. How dare they.

Thank you all, apologies for the delayed reply it's been a hectic bed time here!!

I'm now going to just leave it with the CPS and the police as it's a police matter and say no more on it, and hopefully my meeting with my MP goes well also.

In reply to the question would my criminal record be "clear" had I not spoken up, the answer is yes. Any false allegations are deemed so immediately and no "mark" is placed against that person.

It is of my opinion that anyone who believes they can falsify evidence and edit social media posts to increase statistics on hate crime or to villified someone else, has greatly underestimated the trouble it will cause them in the long run. My advice to anyone who thinks this is a great way to "boost statistics" would be a clear and definite, it is not wise, you will get caught out and you will face the consequences of doing so in one way or another. 🤷

Coach you sound so level headed about this.

Awesome coach be careful what you say on here in case its picked up and detracts from your case at all. It may well be looked for, just a heads up to avoid any further convolutions!

Welcome robjessel and good luck with your worthy endeavours!

Coach - I wish you well with your meetings.

It is good that at least one police force is questioning what is happening. I think there has been a lot of jobsworth-type stuff of just 'following procedures' which has been taken advantage of. It seems that once these activists find one way/loophole to allow them harass, they milk it for all it's worth. Maybe that will be the downfall.

Crikey, Coach.

You are handling it brilliantly. No need at all to go public.

I wonder if any of the other forces actually bothered to look into the "evidence" helpfully provided by these nutters when they wanted to silence someone on social media?

HarrytheOwl was spoken to about his "30 tweets" but the officer involve neglected to mention exactly which 30 tweets were supposedly offensive. Can't help but wonder if some of these tweets were actually made up?

Hi there! I am now on Mumsnet - please be gentle with me!

LOL! Welcome, Rob. Good plan for demo.

More fool them because technically I am the victim of malicious behaviour now. I am awaiting news over the upcoming weeks from the CPS on what action will be taken as I've made both a statement and a victim statement regarding last night's events.

So slowly but surely I'll get there.

CoachBombay You will I'm sure because you are right to do this.

There is a serious need for all parties who have contributed your treatment to be identified & made accountable.

I'd be most interested to know if any gender critical person has been discovered falsifying screenshots and sending them to the police in the hope of getting a transactivist into trouble.

One thing I feel quite sure of, if that ever did happen, such a person would be condemned and disowned very rapidly by the vast majority of people with similar views.

My goodness.

I have been assured that there is now nothing on my criminal record,

Now? So there would have been if you hadn’t followed up?

Good on you for doing this. If enough people push back this will make a difference

Hi there! I am now on Mumsnet - please be gentle with me!

Here is a link to the proposed demonstration's Facebook page: www.facebook.com/events/473621493171714/

I can understand why people may not wish to disclose publicly that they're interested in attending, and I had originally made a private group. Problem was that people found it difficult to find the event on Facebook.

Open to any and all suggestions for how we can make a success of something that I feel very strongly about: protecting free speech and ensuring that police resources are not squandered on criminalising septuagenarians for wrongthink.

Twitter's a good place to get hold of me. If you'd like to remain anonymous to others, just DM me - I will never, ever disclose anyone's participation without their permission.

Thanks for your time!

R

Falsified screen shots? Oh, my giddy aunt.

.... rape victims and abuse survivors should now be treated seriously in every case oh yes, ha ha ha ha....

The word to consider being 'should'

Oh well done, CoachBombay. You’re brilliant. 💐

Sounds encouraging, Coach, well done for not letting it lie.
I'm a bit shocked that someone would be so dumb as to send the police falsified screen shots!