Womb transplants for trans women are a human right, says surgeon

I'm not sure I have the energy at all for this tbh.

"Team up, women, with the transpeople so eager to fight against the men who oppress us all! (Please ignore the trans people who are male bodied and issuing threats and telling you to shut up)"

It's all so 'look at the eyes, not around the eyes'.

@LondonHuffyPuffy I think I love you. Wishing you well 💐

Women attacking transwoman

The first link is really fishy. It says the women exposed themselves, but also that it wasn't clear they had legal representation. The article looks like swiss cheese - it leave so many more questions than answers. There's a good chance that was one of the strategic test cases to push for males in women's spaces.

The second link is about the male with feminised appearance who was swinger/prostitute killed by a man in 2018 which has already been mentioned on this thread.

I've got a bit in my will specifying that only a biological woman can have my uterus.

Someone may have already said this, but unless this is a living will/personal directive, it is useless to have this in there. Actual testamentary wills are rarely found, referred to, and not even enacted (since they only come into play at death) and until long transplants would be completed can, and often even after funerals are completed.

It needs to be in a living will/personal directive so someone you appoint with authority can make decisions about your medical care including organ donation (because you are actually still “living” at the time those decisions are made.

Thanks flyingoink, I didn't have the energy to point that out.

I’m glad to see it get posted on this thread again so other readers can see the contents again and discover for themselves that it was far far more sensible than I have painted it

Havers not haters

Now even if we take the estimated number of people suffering genderdysphoria in the UK that is estimated at about 200,000 but there is no hard data because many keep it hidden

But you are forgetting all the other trans people which probably amounts to a few millions when every "gender" is taken into account. Plus all the men that tell their mum they are trans.
You keep making trans people out to only be dysphoria haters. It is anyone who says they are. Stop being transphobia please.

Unless discussion about conflicting rights is considered bullying. But nobody would be that controlling.

allies fighting prejudice

Oh, fuck off with this allies bullshit.

Jazzbunny Jesse McDonald is a man.

I'm kind of speechless right about now. How do you answer 'why are you scared to go up against 'real' men?' and 'you don't address the real problem and you are as bad as the men who oppress us'?

Jazz, mate, how about you engage with what is actually being said by the women here. It would be so much more productive than your long screeds of finger wagging at the women doing things wrong iyo.

I am so angry about this. Considering the dire state of antenatal care for ACTUAL women - money given to funding anything like this is an absolute outrage.

Stop bullying a marginalised minority

Who are you actually speaking to here ? No one on here has posted anything which remotely resembles bullying. I don't believe for one minute that anyone posting here has bullied a trans woman in real life.

But if you can't get over your hang up about transwomen, then I fear you are going to end up being the plaything of 'real' men for the rest of your lives

What? Please explain.

datun quoting other posters to challenge their points only really works if you quote them properly. You lopped off the entire second half of a sentence to suit your angle.

“ “The flyer they handed out was considered provocative propaganda.”

The absolute cheek of this is difficult to believe. Anyone can read the flyer. Got Google? It's not bloody propaganda to claim that lesbians are female homosexuals. “

I said it was considered provocative propaganda by many people, including the in the mainstream media reporting. Which it was. You may disagree with that assessment of the contents, but still, that’s how the flyer was received by general perception.

No cheek involved in stating that.

Once again, the objections to that protest were funded in a lot more than the wording of that one banner.

Reporting and condemnation focussed on mostly three aspects of it:

1. the comandeering of the lead of the parade, a position that had been reserved for NHS staff in recognition of the anniversary celebrations,
2. The causing a lengthy delay for thusands of people in very hot conditions
3. Handing out flyers at the head of a parade that included trans people and their families, whose content was considered offensive and anti trans by many people present at the event and afterwards.

Yes, I’ve read it. I’m glad to see it get posted on this thread again so other readers can see the contents again and discover for themselves that it was far far more than a definition of the word lesbian on a banner.

Taking on places like 4Chan and not allowing these incel misogynists get away with their hate without being challenged.

Yes. Why aren't you doing that instead of harassing a bunch of women?

Oh and FWIW I do think trans people are subject to bullying and discrimination but I don’t think they face a high risk of murder in the UK.

15,000 registered transwomen in the UK receiving or received treatment at a GIC centre.

How many transwomen are there including self-identifiers not receiving treatment?

jazz you are massively downplaying the number of transwomen. There are more than 15,000 and not all will be registered at a clinic.
None of the murdered TW were attacked by random strangers- they were by people known to the victim. That suggests that there is not an epidemic of attacks on transwomen.
And the risk is not the same. Transwomen will not be at the same risk of intimate partner violence as natal women. Men who abuse women in heterosexual relationships don’t tend to have relationships with TW. Not to say that TW can’t be victims of DV, but it’s of a different nature to the threat that heterosexual women face from partners.

. I would like to see you as allies fighting prejudice on various news sites. Taking on places like 4Chan and not allowing these incel misogynists get away with their hate without being challenged.

I'm fine here thanks mate, but do feel free to fo to 4Chan, Reddit and Kiwifarms and give them a piece of your mind.

English law defines rape as a crime that is by definition committed by a man. Anyone with a penis is 'he' according to the statute.

Jazzbunny

You are the one who keeps bringing it back to transwomen, over and over again.

We might know more on stats if transwomen weren’t actually recorded as women. We’d also see a dip in incidences of ‘female’ violence.

15,000 registered transwomen in the UK receiving or received treatment at a GIC centre. On average 1 transwoman is murdered every year. That's 1 in 15,000 which equates to 0.0066%.
139 women were murdered in the UK, including 21 from terrorist attacks. 32m women in the UK. 139 in 32,000,000 equates to 0.0004%

Now even if we take the estimated number of people suffering genderdysphoria in the UK that is estimated at about 200,000 but there is no hard data because many keep it hidden. You still come to a percentage of 0.0005% which is higher than the number of non-trans women who are murdered in the UK.

It is not statistical manipulation just because you don't like the facts. I was asked the question, and I provided the answer.

Women attacking transwoman:
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/north-carolina-trans-sexual-assault-raleigh-bathroom-bill-women-charged-a8718796.html

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/university-dropout-jesse-mcdonald-killed-trans-woman-after-sex-and-drug-binge-kwfskrkcl

Other
www.rt.com/uk/416727-sex-change-attacks-trans/

www.transadvocate.com/arsonist-terf-thinks-trans-women-are-immoral-should-be-beaten_n_21510.htm

www.stuff.co.nz/national/97064735/trans-woman-granted-nz-residency-to-protect-her-from-hate-crime-in-the-uk

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/transgender-woman-vows-defy-bigots-13841676

BUT AGAIN!! This isn't a competition! Bullying is bullying. Rape is rape. Violence is violence. And sadly even some women are sexually assaulted by other women... which prison do we put those in? www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/female-rapists-you-really-dont-expect-it-from-a-woman-because-theyre-meant-to-be-on-your-side/news-story/d8d62770b613b46695326e3d73e0eb6f

Stop bullying a marginalised minority. They are not the problem. I am getting to the point here, where I am going to ask why are you scared to go up against 'real' men? I've called on you several times now to start addressing the real problem... and you keep bringing it back to transwomen. Are you truly that insecure about your womanhood?

You are being played and you are contributing to male violence, and you just can't see it. It makes me weep for you. I would like to see you as allies fighting prejudice on various news sites. Taking on places like 4Chan and not allowing these incel misogynists get away with their hate without being challenged. But if you can't get over your hang up about transwomen, then I fear you are going to end up being the plaything of 'real' men for the rest of your lives... even if you don't realise it is happening to you. It makes me sad. You are no better than the men who seek to oppress us.