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Posie, please stop

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Sunshineofleith · 08/02/2019 01:27

Beating yourself up. You, Venice and Julia have conquered the market. No other ‘feminist’ has managed this. How amazing are you all. Posie, you have managed so much by presenting a truth that a women is an adult human female that is scientifically proven has scared everyone. How amazing are you.
I await my t shirt with this fact. I will not be able to wear it as I have a child/teen, nearly an adult who thinks they are female. Your t shirt will go into a drawer but I know it’s there reminding me, when I am questioning myself for not affirming my child’s thought, that my son can not be female.
Keep up your fight. Stop listening to others who are jealous of your basic campaign and who try to intellectualise it with academic talk, when the simple truth gets the job done.
Stand up for us parents. No one else is. Stand up for our daughters and for our sons too. The parents voice needs heard. Focus on this. It does not matter to parents where you are aligned politically. But you know this. Keep doing what you are doing and fight for me because I’m not brave enough to stand up

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ThePankhurstConnection · 08/02/2019 17:41

Posie and others are raising the popular awareness needed to in turn create the space for lawmakers to be forced listen to "experts" and "academics".

One can't succeed without the other.

This is exactly what I think. I think different people have their own skills and strong points and each woman who has contributed to this becoming mainstream news and created awareness should be celebrated.

I think the women on here who have been writing about it for years, the women donating, the women speaking to friends and family, giving out leaflets, writing letters are all contributing.

Posie and every other figurehead of this (Bindell, Stock, Freeman, Murphy et al.) are brave to speak out and act the way they have and I appreciate them all for their differing contributions.

Thingybob · 08/02/2019 17:07

I'm not good at interpreting some of the more oblique messages on various SM platforms

Me neither and I have nothing against any of the other feminists involved but I can't help but have the utmost respect for PP. Just look at the empathy, passion and sincerity she demonstrates in this video.

www.facebook.com/theposieparker/videos/2369584096494890/

WeRiseUp · 08/02/2019 17:05

There are a lot of feminists who have been plugging away about this laaaaangtime.

Posie is so brilliant. She can't be categorised and she happens to have gavitated to radical feminism/ists (because she is interested in unflinching truthfulness and it's the inevitable progression from cutting the crap).

I am curious to know how several feminists (some a bit late to the party, I might add) have all spontaneously decided to turn on Posie at the same time - for some really old news that they never commented on before as far as i'm aware- just as she was making huge waves... Even Resisters acting like their actions she funded had nothing to do with her. Confused

Who was the stirrer? Why we're they all such spineless, easily-manipulated fuckwits?

It all seems a bit fishy to me. I've not seen anyone come forward and defend it, but I wish they would. I am baffled.

CallMeWoman · 08/02/2019 16:58

Bore off.

AliceToo · 08/02/2019 16:49

We are at war, and our children are the cannon fodder. We must fight the gender cult, not each other. Anyone who doesn't understand this needs to rethink their behaviour.

Rehashed anti gay speak straight out of the 70's

Katvonfelttipeyebrows · 08/02/2019 16:45

It's like the suffragists, who kept to political discourse and suffragetes, who took direct action.
You need both for change I think.

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Sunshineofleith · 08/02/2019 16:40

I never thought of myself as brave but I know it takes courage to support a child who is distressed yet not colluding with their thoughts. Shame our therapists aren’t practicing what they preach when dealing with other mental health issues like anorexia, like schizophrenia, like addictions etc. It must be the only distorted thinking process that demands mutilation and life long medication on an otherwise healthy body. The body in question is not diseased. It is healthy. It is the mind that needs the help. It is so obvious and basic. Just like the definition of woman but the activist don’t want these facts getting heard. This is why Posie scares them. It is impossible to argue rationally. The Transvactivist are trying to by saying sex is a construct. This is why Posie’s campaign to raise the awareness of adult human female is creating a stir. Now that it has crossed the pond and also into Europe, it has allowed more people to question. It is no longer contained. I have interacted with those parents Posie is talking about and many hundred others. They all say the same story. This is real. It is happening and until now they could not be heard.

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SisterWendyBuckett · 08/02/2019 15:40

Yes you're brave Sunshine - your T-shirt may still be in a drawer (for now) but you started this thread!

MrsWinkly · 08/02/2019 15:22

Sunshine, I'd certainly call you brave.

And agree with PPs, we need all these women!

BessyK · 08/02/2019 14:45

I'm also very grateful to Posie and anyone placing themselves in the firing line. They're helping to give a voice to parents that aren't automatically affirming their childs transgender identity.

RhymesWithOrange · 08/02/2019 13:31

Agree with all of this. I'm not good at interpreting some of the more oblique messages on various SM platforms but it sounds like there's a lot of bitterness between JH and PP, where once they shared a platform?

I don't know who's right or wrong, I hugely admire them both and I think the fight needs both of them.

Mner2019 · 08/02/2019 12:18

It doesn't matter at all what political spectrum any of use are from. This is fundamental to everything else.

Mner2019 · 08/02/2019 12:17

I was dumbstruck by the amazing work of all the GC feminists. Every campaign, every tweet, every comment on here. It all helps. What those in the spotlight must be going through is unbelievable and must mean the TRAs are scared. Keep going all of you as the tide is turning.

I am wearing my t-shirt for the first time ever this morning after buying it last year. It is under a layer of jumpers/tops as I am not as brave as I want to be.

Melroses · 08/02/2019 12:14

I support every single woman who is doing anything to raise awareness of this issue.

^^ This absolutely.

There is more than one way to approach things and there people who listen to different voices, so the message needs to be as widespread as possible. We each have our own pathway up the mountain.

(and thanks for The Proclaimers Grin)

Bebstar123 · 08/02/2019 12:05

If nothing else this whole sorry incident has convinced me even more that political collectivism is a cancer eating away at genuine co-operation and debate. Political parties can kiss my ovaries.

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 08/02/2019 12:04

I support every single woman who is doing anything to raise awareness of this issue. They're all doing it in different ways and they are all doing it publicly with the accountant bad publicity from the TRAs and the effect that has on their families etc.

Nic Williams, Caroline Farrow, Janice Turner, Rosa Freeman, Jean Hatchet, Jane Clare Jones, Julie Bindel, Karen Ingala Smith... All of them are inspirational women.

I stand with every one of them and thank them for what they are doing.

littlbrowndog · 08/02/2019 11:49

Yeah it’s really really important that we are a mixed bunch

LangCleg · 08/02/2019 11:46

I think it's worth noticing the difference between the Maria Miller report of a couple of years ago (in which non TRA experts and academics were roundly ignored) and the recent Scottish parliamentary report on the census (where GC experts and academics were heard and acknowledged).

Which women created the space for this difference? Each one who caught the public's attention - Maria, Nic, Posie, Venice, Sticker Woman, etc - that's who.

GrinitchSpinach · 08/02/2019 11:35

Posie and others are raising the popular awareness needed to in turn create the space for lawmakers to be forced listen to "experts" and "academics".

One can't succeed without the other.

People like Posie and Man Friday to grab the headlines, and the academics to back everything up with robust arguments.

Yes, yes, yes. All of this.

I love you, FWR. Grin

LangCleg · 08/02/2019 11:29

People like Posie and Man Friday to grab the headlines, and the academics to back everything up with robust arguments.

Exactly this.

LangCleg · 08/02/2019 11:28

Absolutely!

In my view, the "experts" and "academics" would do well to recognise this. There is no ownership of "we".

OldCrone · 08/02/2019 11:27

We need more people to know what's happening. They need to be angry about their daughters seeing an adult penis in a changing room. They need to be angry about their children being taught in school that they can change sex.

The academics will never reach the numbers of people that Posie can with her billboards and videos. We need both. People like Posie and Man Friday to grab the headlines, and the academics to back everything up with robust arguments.

Infighting will get us nowhere.

BettyDuMonde · 08/02/2019 11:21

Posie and others are raising the popular awareness needed to in turn create the space for lawmakers to be forced listen to "experts" and "academics"

Absolutely!

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Sunshineofleith · 08/02/2019 11:17

It was the exposure that Man Friday got from direct activism that first brought this into the homes of the general public. Posie, Venice and Julia have taken it further and made it international. Posie’s off to Oslo as I write. Her voice is getting results. This is an international crisis where all sides must unite.

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thatdamnwoman · 08/02/2019 10:45

Thumbs up from me to Posie, Venice, Julia — and to all the other women including Jean Hatchet, Kathleen Stock and others.

We're all involved in the same battle and we're all fighting in our different ways. It would be wonderful if we could all agree completely on how to tackle every one of the many issues that need to be taken on — but that's never going to happen. Hats off to everyone putting their time, their energy, their money and their reputations and lives on the line.