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Posie, please stop

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Sunshineofleith · 08/02/2019 01:27

Beating yourself up. You, Venice and Julia have conquered the market. No other ‘feminist’ has managed this. How amazing are you all. Posie, you have managed so much by presenting a truth that a women is an adult human female that is scientifically proven has scared everyone. How amazing are you.
I await my t shirt with this fact. I will not be able to wear it as I have a child/teen, nearly an adult who thinks they are female. Your t shirt will go into a drawer but I know it’s there reminding me, when I am questioning myself for not affirming my child’s thought, that my son can not be female.
Keep up your fight. Stop listening to others who are jealous of your basic campaign and who try to intellectualise it with academic talk, when the simple truth gets the job done.
Stand up for us parents. No one else is. Stand up for our daughters and for our sons too. The parents voice needs heard. Focus on this. It does not matter to parents where you are aligned politically. But you know this. Keep doing what you are doing and fight for me because I’m not brave enough to stand up

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QuintadiMalago · 11/02/2019 19:36

WeRiseUp
I don't remember but I get your drift

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 11/02/2019 19:34

Well, as Rosa has pointed out, Julie Bindel has been fighting this fight for many years and has managed not to pose with right-wingers, Jordan Peterson or anti-abortionists.
And I have to question the response. If it were me who found out who I was posing with, I would make a quick statement saying I was sorry and had no idea etc, understanding that a Jewish person would be very upset about it. But no, instead she insinuates that Rosa somehow knows this guy. I get the distinct impression that she doesn’t care, but seeing as so many others don’t either, it’s probably not a massive hurdle.

WeRiseUp · 11/02/2019 19:32

But surely someone intelligent wouldn't fall for anything so obvious?

I dunno. If you get people feeling vulnerable and paranoid, they are easier to control.

WeRiseUp · 11/02/2019 19:31

Does anyone else remember the couple of posters who would always brigade on any thread where Posie was mentioned doing a kind of good cop bad cop Muslim 'feminist' thing? They would also trundle along to defend WPUKs stupid public denouncing of Posie.

exLtEveDallas · 11/02/2019 19:29

Fair enough WeRiseUp, I dont know that. But surely someone intelligent wouldn't fall
for anything so obvious? That's why I think she did it herself.

Yambabe · 11/02/2019 19:27

I watched it all unfold on twitter last night.

I did think Rosa had over-reacted, but the info I was able to find suggested that this conference was organised by Alliansen, the political party run by Hans Johansen. He seems to be a sort of Norwegian Farage, only more extreme.

Maybe I was wrong, maybe he was just bandwagon-jumping being there and he wasn't the person who organised it at all.

If that's the case I apologise unreservedly to Posie.

WeRiseUp · 11/02/2019 19:21

It seems like very odd behaviour from someone who has the mental stability to get a PHD and keep a job.

Floisme · 11/02/2019 19:20

I can understand Rosa Freedman's sentiments too. But, as a law professor, she must also understand the importance of evidence.

This is now the third time in a fortnight that I have seen people make serious allegations about Posie Parker and then failed to back them up.

WeRiseUp · 11/02/2019 19:20

Are you sure she did all that and wasn't handed it by someone else?

exLtEveDallas · 11/02/2019 19:16

And it was actually Rosa Freedman who was so upset about the picture, and the background of the chap concerned

It was Rosa Freedman who searched the timeline of the Mot Dag conference.

It was Rosa Freedman who searched for the twitter feed of Hans Johansen.

It was Rosa Freedman who translated his tweets of 3 years ago to find 'evidence' of his racism.

And it was Rosa Freedman who then used her 'research' to smear Posie.

She wasn't fucking upset, she was fucking sly.

QuietContraryMary · 11/02/2019 19:16

"That random man is actually a well-known politician who is the leader of the political party who organised the conference. "

Bollocks.

As is clearly visible in the photos being circulated, it is the 'Mot Dag Konferanse' steigan.no

A 5 second Google search shows:

"Pål Steigan is a Norwegian communist and former leader of the Maoist Workers' Communist Party, AKP, from 1975 to 1984, and jointly leader of the Red Electoral Alliance until 1979."

The full agenda of the conference is here

<a class="break-all" href="https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=steigan.no/tag/mot-dag/&prev=search" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=steigan.no/tag/mot-dag/&prev=search

The agenda is Syria, Venezuela, war, and gender. Not any indication whatsoever that there would be any random Nazis there.

Anyone who claims that Posie should somehow know that attending a left-wing conference would result in selfies with obscure Norwegian Nazis is either stupid or dishonest. Or both.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 11/02/2019 19:14

To be fair, Rosa is Jewish, so you can understand her sentiments about holocaust denial. Plus PP does seem to keep finding herself in these situations, but I guess she will always have people who are going to explain it away....

QuintadiMalago · 11/02/2019 19:07

I have no personal knowledge of Posie Parker or Rosa Freedman or Venice Allen or any of the academics mentioned.
But I'm fucking sick to death of the endless rehashing of what was meant by certain statements and actions.
They are all women and are all fighting for Female sex based rights to be respected and not to be thrown away.
I have great respect for anyone who has stuck their head above the parapet and has taken the shit that has been dished out.

Floisme · 11/02/2019 19:03

Rosa Freedman has left Twitter but if I remember correctly, she herself confirmed that the conference was organised by the far left. The last time I looked at her Twitter feed, she had switched to arguing that it was the wrong kind of left.

WeRiseUp · 11/02/2019 18:59

Rosa was just on the other thread and said she is having a break.

Yambabe · 11/02/2019 18:58

Looks like Rosa's twitter account is down now. Hmmm.

WeRiseUp · 11/02/2019 18:56

I don't think there's any way Posie wouldn't know who he was

Since when is she some kind of expert on Norwegian politics?

Yambabe · 11/02/2019 18:54

And it was actually Rosa Freedman who was so upset about the picture, and the background of the chap concerned.

Floisme · 11/02/2019 18:54

As I recall, it was a far left conference.

WeRiseUp · 11/02/2019 18:53

Why would far right groups platform the 'Women With Vaginas' song? Confused

Yambabe · 11/02/2019 18:51

Nah. That random man is actually a well-known politician who is the leader of the political party who organised the conference.

I don't think there's any way Posie wouldn't know who he was, and if she'd done her homework on Allianse (the political party involved) she would surely have declined this one.

There's the conservative right, who you may not agree with on most issues but can be on-point on others, and there's far-right white supremist modern nazis. This bunch are very much in the second category, as anyone who spends 5 minutes on google can discover.

Can't help wondering what on earth she was thinking accepting this invitation.

WeRiseUp · 11/02/2019 18:51

Yes. Now I realise Kristina Harrison is not an ally of women.

Carowiththegoodhair · 11/02/2019 18:46

If you haven’t seen Posie’s presentation to Oslo, it’s on her FB page. I think it’s her most impressive and compelling appearance to date.

She’s doing great work. I watched it with my 14 year-old DD who was open-mouthed.

Ereshkigal · 11/02/2019 18:45

They really need to button it because they are going about 'distancing themselves' from PP the wrong way. I'd prefer to see critics debate her views, or critique her methods but spurious allegations of being friends with a holocaust denier is over-the-top.

Completely agree. They're not covering themselves in glory with this.

theOtherPamAyres · 11/02/2019 18:43

The anti-Posie Collective have stooped to baseless smears.

(Background: a man asked PP for a selfie at a meeting in the USA. Turns out that he's a holocaust denier. PP didn't know who he was and neither did anyone else at the meeting.)

twitter.com/KJ_Harrison/status/1094803152212320258

They really need to button it because they are going about 'distancing themselves' from PP the wrong way. I'd prefer to see critics debate her views, or critique her methods but spurious allegations of being friends with a holocaust denier is over-the-top.