How British feminism became anti-trans - according to the New York Times

Jane Clare Jones' rebuttal is one of the most magnificent pieces of writing I've ever read. Angry, withering, erudite, incredible.

This is ripe for Private Eye's "Pseuds Corner"

Needmoresleep
Spectator article is very good

In their moral opposition to prostitution (conflated with slavery) and cyborg human embodiment

Ok, can anyone help me out here? What’s cyborg human embodiment?

Is it like robocop? I did not know feminists were opposed to that

This article analyzes the Euro-American and Australian anglophone feminist-abolitionist stance toward surrogacy, contextualizing it in relation to sex-worker-exclusionary antitrafficking, on the one hand, and transphobic imaginaries, on the other. These truncated abolitionisms, I argue, perform opposition to commodification rather than capitalism and encrypt profoundly antifeminist ideas under the guise of fighting patriarchy.

Good username fodder there, if anyone needs a new one.

Just cancelled my subscription and told them why.

Me too. I know it's an opinion piece, but NYT can choose what they publish and all I can do is vote with my feet.
Jane Clare Jones is such a brilliant and funny writer, she effortlessly makes these word-salad peddlers look ridiculous.

Or this spectator.us/terfs-take-america/

Anyone seen this?

www.nationalreview.com/corner/baseless-hit-piece-on-british-feminists-in-the-new-york-times/

She is clearly educated and academic

Means nothing really these days.

Maybe at some point, if her ‘lesbian’ relationship fails, she will pop up on the transwidow thread.

She is clearly educated and academic (a first from Oxford, Fulbright Scholar, PhD) so the lack of understanding of basic stuff and the obscurity of her language are weird. Unless this is how you need to write to get a first?

trans-women-exclusionary radical pseudofeminists

Does that mean we’re TERPS now? Or the more accurate TWERPs, given that all the upset is about the feelings of transwomen rather than transmen?

Just cancelled my subscription and told them why.

Sophie L has spent too long in the US and can no longer see that the rest of the world does not operate on the same basis.

Hackmum - and the penis beaker I guess.

Dear Sophie makes links between British GC feminists and the American Christian Right.

The better question is “Where on earth are American LibFems”. If they were not all drinking from the same über strength Kool Aid bottle, perhaps they would be able to see what is right in front of them. (With the worth exceptions of those who have found their way here.)

I think MN FWR should demand a rebuttal and then submit the Jane Clare Jones article.

It's the inability to process that 98% of the world does not see gender the way you do and don't believe in gender ideology and stereotypes, but sex as it's a fact.

I can imagine it's somewhat disheartening when slowly, very slowly, it dawns on you that more and more people outside of the bubble either can't understand what you are saying, or outright respectfully disagree with it.
All of this just to say "British woman discussing their rights are nasty and my feeling are hurt because of it."

Jeez Sophie.
All the word salad
Ffs

Sophie Lewis has also written this paper. She seems determined to make a link between gender critical feminism and Christian conservatives.

Defending Intimacy against What? Limits of Antisurrogacy Feminisms

In their moral opposition to prostitution (conflated with slavery) and cyborg human embodiment (which critics term “medical abuse”), the agendas of such feminisms and Christian conservatism overlap. ... This article analyzes the Euro-American and Australian anglophone feminist-abolitionist stance toward surrogacy, contextualizing it in relation to sex-worker-exclusionary antitrafficking, on the one hand, and transphobic imaginaries, on the other. These truncated abolitionisms, I argue, perform opposition to commodification rather than capitalism and encrypt profoundly antifeminist ideas under the guise of fighting patriarchy.

There's a link to the full article if anyone has the stomach for it (not sure I do).

How do we get her analyses into the hands of someone important at NYT?
It would be perfect published as a rebuttal in the NYT wouldn't it?

Jane Clare Jones has made coffee come out of my nose.

How do we get her analyses into the hands of someone important at NYT? Can we crowd fund to get it submitted via a solicitors letter or something?

Needmoresleep: "Wasn't the first media focus about asking a politician what sort of biscuits they preferred."

That was predated by the great furore over She Who Shall Not Be Named. (OK, Gina Ford. But pretend I didn't mention it.)

So Sophie is a straight woman in a hetero relationship with a man then?😣 Bio cock??

I cannot believe these relentless attacks on lesbians, it's the worst publicly sanctioned homophobia I've seen in my 40something years.

Also, how do these people get degrees from Oxford?

Jane Clare Jones

This author seems to be the ultimate student in Humpty Dumptyish words mean whatever I say they mean.

What next

THE WORLD!!!!!