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Almost 65% of women in prison have brain damage due to domestic violence

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placemats · 06/02/2019 11:50

This is a shocking statistic. And well worth highlighting.

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/06/nearly-65-of-prisoners-at-womens-jail-show-signs-of-brain-injury

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Melroses · 06/02/2019 17:10

The "eggshell skull" means that what was 'only' mundane violence becomes accidental murder.

Melroses · 06/02/2019 17:08

No I don't think that is what is being said either. The mundanity of the domestic violence is being used to excuse the resulting murder as accidental.

LangCleg · 06/02/2019 16:47

I don’t believe this is what she’s saying at all. I think she’s using a visceral and easily identifiable image to challenge the widely held although subconscious perception that domestic violence is boring and mundane. I think she’s illustrating that while sensational murders are attention grabbing, what we should really be concerned about is the huge numbers of murders that occur as a result of domestic violence

I definitely do not think that.

WeRiseUp · 06/02/2019 16:25

I was under the impression it was the 'domestic violence gone wrong' thing that really pissed people off, since it implies their is a form of domestic violence that can be done right - violence that controls and terrorises, but stops just short of killing her, were it not for that wretched eggshell skull women go around sporting. Hmm

Since the writer John Ozimek is supportive of pornography that depicts taking women to the brink, I hardly think the DV comments would be benign.

ImTheDamnFoolThatShotHim · 06/02/2019 16:21

Not entirely a surprise. I believe I have damage caused by repeated blows to the head, he usually hit where my hair is so there wouldn't be marks.
Although some connected with the facial areas, loosened teeth, bit through my tongue.
I feel I'm slower mentally, far from stupid but silly things don't make sense, and it's noticeable,
I'm not 'myself' anymore. Not who I used to be I guess.

MargueritaPink · 06/02/2019 15:18

Yes I believe she did actually say it was our fault that our skulls are too thin

I don’t believe this is what she’s saying at all. I think she’s using a visceral and easily identifiable image to challenge the widely held although subconscious perception that domestic violence is boring and mundane. I think she’s illustrating that while sensational murders are attention grabbing, what we should really be concerned about is the huge numbers of murders that occur as a result of domestic violence

I agree with you. I thought it was an effective piece of writing for the reasons you give. I don't think she is remotely saying it is women's fault.

User383673 · 06/02/2019 14:23

I was just coming here to post this - so awful, and a clear sign that screening for domestic violence is essential.

Yes I believe she did actually say it was our fault that our skulls are too thin.

I don’t believe this is what she’s saying at all. I think she’s using a visceral and easily identifiable image to challenge the widely held although subconscious perception that domestic violence is boring and mundane. I think she’s illustrating that while sensational murders are attention grabbing, what we should really be concerned about is the huge numbers of murders that occur as a result of domestic violence.

WeRiseUp · 06/02/2019 14:12

I know several people who knew her a few years ago and felt the old her would never have behaved as she did.

It's so fucking awful.

It makes me realise how much the emphasis on psychology and self-improvement is such crap when the brain is so delicate and the scars in the 'mind' from abuse can actually be physical. We need decent rehab.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 06/02/2019 14:03

I am shocked by this but it does make a horrible sort of sense.
I had a nightmare lodger last year who was a DV victim and I wouldn't be surprised if she had had brain damage. There is a very good chance she will end up in prison one day. This is a small community and I know several people who knew her a few years ago and felt the old her would never have behaved as she did.
Bloody, bloody male violence.

Redshoeblueshoe · 06/02/2019 12:30

Yes I believe she did actually say it was our fault that our skulls are too thin.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/02/2019 12:16

As a particular feminist said on Twitter:

Most murder is boring, pedestrian, even accidental stuff. Somewhere between a third and a half result from too much alcohol. A high proportion are domestic violence “gone wrong”. A blow struck one time too many: an egg-shell skull.

Our eggshell skulls are obviously at fault.

Almost 65% of women in prison have brain damage due to domestic violence
WeRiseUp · 06/02/2019 12:12

So sad. Sad
Women's and girl's skulls are thinner than men, so we are more likely to get concussion than men. We really need sex segregation in sports and prisons for this reason alone, without even bringing in all the other good reasons for it.

nettie434 · 06/02/2019 11:59

Absolutely frightening Redshoeblueshoe. I knew about the high rates of domestic abuse but that so many should have brain damage! Thanks for link placemats. Even more reason to be incredibly careful about transferring prisoners who identify as women from men’s prisons.

userschmoozer · 06/02/2019 11:55

There are a few studies from different countries that show the same result.

Redshoeblueshoe · 06/02/2019 11:54

That's bloody frightening