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Dv, father with court ordered custody kills baby

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Oceanbliss · 06/02/2019 11:23

www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/child-adult-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-on-sunshine-coast/news-story/17f9001d327747efb5df0392c45b3210

I am very distressed at this news report of an innocent 6 month old baby murdered by his father who despite perpetrating domestic violence is awarded shared custody by the courts. I've been aware for such a long time of so many mothers escaping domestic violence, seeking support are forced by courts, police, social workers to hand over their babies, their children to violent men and have no way under our current system to protect their children or themselves from threat. These men are protected. I've seen in news women taking their children interstate to hide them and protect them having Amber Alert issued against them and portrayed as kidnapping their children. Domestic violence is an epidemic in our world and this culture of protecting men and their entitlements and their reputations is enabling the assaults and deaths of women and children all over the world. Will this ever change?

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hollybella89 · 06/02/2019 12:23

It's not hard to get an order in this state if you know the right things to say. They can be done privately by an individual at the courthouse and the magistrate will err on the side of caution to cover their own career and make the order. Some are never ever breached. We have had some horrific domestic violence incidents in this state because not enough was done - and now it's swung too far in the opposite direction.

A big threat to genuine victims of domestic violence are the people - both male and female - who use the system to further their own agenda eg child custody, property settlement etc

WeRiseUp · 06/02/2019 12:19

It's because MRAs have been working to weaken safeguards so they can gratify their 'entitlement'. They use lots of bullshit false equivalences to sway people into pitying the aggressor and bullshit terms like 'parental alienation syndrome' eased along by cultural misogyny so people think the mum is crazy or vindictive.

Look where it leads - violent dads killing their kids and there's nothing the mum can do about it.

Believeitornot · 06/02/2019 12:12

The fact there is a DV order in place between these parents does not necessarily mean he is a violent person and should not have access to his child

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hollybella89 · 06/02/2019 11:52

This is horrifying that this man has killed his child. There is NO excuse for that.

But...these situations are not as black and white as they appear. The fact there is a DV order in place between these parents does not necessarily mean he is a violent person and should not have access to his child.

The amber alert in Queensland is only used when there is an immediate risk of harm to the child. If it was used for every custody dispute, they would be running non stop and lose all seriousness for the situations where a child is at immediate risk.

I am not defending this man for killing his child. It is never excusable.

I don't know the specifics of this case...but the biggest problem with the system here is that is it flooded with false claims and 'victims' who use the system to further their own agenda and the people who genuinely need help get overlooked.

userschmoozer · 06/02/2019 11:34

Will this trigger any kind of inquiry into the decision? Will anything change to keep other children safe?

If not, you have to ask who creates such a system and why.

Believeitornot · 06/02/2019 11:32

It’s disgusting. I know someone who’s ex husband has contact even though he has a criminal conviction due to violence against the mother. Appalling.

mondaysaturday · 06/02/2019 11:31

Currently have my own little one snuggled up and sleeping on my chest and this is breaking my heart. What a catastrophic failing - this is what happens when men's feelings are given priority over children's safety.