New CBeebies show has pissed me right off

Catie's amazing machines is pretty good.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06m8m6y

@Bowchicawowow
Tbf, Numberblocks is pretty equal
Bing has two of each lead characters, and one of each lead parent
Peter has two guys to one girl and two male baddies but it's ancient
Swashbuckler has two strong females
Alphablocks is fairly even
ITNG has one of each plus an old dude
Hey Duggee kids are mixed and actually the smart one is a girl and the annoying one is a boy
Show Me Show Me is one of each
Nina is female
Sarah and Duck is a lead female
Charlie abd Lola is one of each
64 Zoo Lane is lead woman
Tommy Time has both and the teachers are one of each
Andy is a man but the head. Job is a woman
Chugginton has both, and the one telling them what to do is a female
The How Do We Do Boring Stuff is female
Giglebiz is Justin but he does do female characters
Octonauts isnt even
Go jetters isn't even
Magic Hands is two of each
Tonga Tails is led by a male lion but the support characters are fairly even
The presenters are mixed

So other than two shows, CBeebies probably has far more even representation than most shows

Colly wobble is the biggest issue in this programme

Things won’t change until the BBC start employing more female writers.

This sounds like a job for the Palace of Righteous Justice:

Thanks where, it was actually doc mcstuffins o was trying to think of, was that cbeebies or have I got mixed up?

I think CBeebies is pretty good overall. My 4 year loves Catie. Swashbuckle is another show with strong female characters both good and bad. Sarah and Duck is good for showing both female and male child characters who are just themselves without being stereotypical.

Ialso does this mean there's more than one episode of Moonn and Me cos DS loves it and I've seen episode 1 twenty times on iPlayer

If you're going to complain about Moon and Me, make it about how frigging creepy Colly Wobble is. SHE is so scary she's made to sleep under the stairs in a purse.

Hang on, did they axe Abney and Teal? That's not on.

I actually feel cbeebies is really good in this sense. ok Go Jetters/ octonauts is male biased, but overall male: female representation is good. i definately saw tombliboos as sex neutral!

I actually feel a lot of the 'expert ' roles go to women over men ie maddie, caties amazing machines, nina and the neurons, bitz and bob (females clever vs hapless males), footy pups, swashbuckle, molly and mack etc. I have 2 ds's so maybe I'm over sensitive but often males seem to be cast in hapless roles. i think its unfair that andy gets all the adventures while jen is a bit simpering, but at least they're similarly skilled.

Was just about to recommend 'my little pony' Mrs Pratchett. Like you say a variety of female characters. 'How to tame your dragon' cartoon series is pretty good too (far better than books they are based on which are almost all male characters). 'The Deep' is pretty evenly balanced too (adventuring scuba diving family).

I agree MrsTerryPratcett

This is a fine line to tread, though. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with hearts or flowers - it's only their association with femininity that's led to them being seen as silly or frivolous. Replacing them with symbols traditionally associated with masculinity (e.g. the lightning bolt) just reinforces the idea that those are the valuable ones. It's the same reason that 'Pink Stinks' campaign rubs me up the wrong way.

Say what you like about My Little Pony but that matriarchal society thinks smart ponies, tough ponies, gentle ponies and party ponies are all worthwhile. Which is why you NEED 'girl' not to be a personality type. Five male characters with different personalities and 'girl' (Smurfs I'm looking you you arseholes). You need multiple girls so one can like hearts and flowers and one can like science and books and one can like animals and dinosaurs... just like the boys get.

RednaxelasPony - phew, glad it wasn't Molly and Mack you were dissing or it would have come to blows 😑

I don't even know why I enjoy it so much.
apart from joining in with the Oops Oh No and the I've Got An Idea songs

My cousin is script editor for Moon and Me, happy to feed back criticisms. I quite liked it, but then I would!

The Nick Jr stuff is terrible for it as well, not just bloody Paw Patrol. Nella - ok strong, helpful etc, but her armour has to have a pink heart on. The girl on Rusty Rivets is inventing stuff, great, but again has something like a heart or flower on her top whereas the boy has a lightning bolt.

This is a fine line to tread, though. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with hearts or flowers - it's only their association with femininity that's led to them being seen as silly or frivolous. Replacing them with symbols traditionally associated with masculinity (e.g. the lightning bolt) just reinforces the idea that those are the valuable ones. It's the same reason that 'Pink Stinks' campaign rubs me up the wrong way.

(Both my kids are mad for Maddie, though. As am I, truth be told )

The moon thing today was all a bit weird for me though. I had to tune out

Catie is brilliant. Youngest DC is in love with that programme and doesn’t move a muscle whenever she is on the screen

Yes to Octonauts being rubbish on gender - the ratio of male Octonauts : female Octonauts actual time on screen and lines spoken is at least 20 to 1, probably a lot more. It’s great in other ways but that bugs me.

My son loves Skye and Everest, his little female friend loves Rubble.
But yes, I rolled my eyes heavily at the 1 female character being super pink and cutesy blergh.

I liked peg + cat! Is that still on?

@GroggyLegs she looks weird when she smiles though lol

@StealthPolarBear

64 zoo lane still comes on

Get Well Soon hasn't been on for a while. I saw it about a week ago

Rosie isn't on anymore

Octonauts is annoying too - two female characters, who my 4 year old loves best, but they aren't part of the key three characters, and in some of the books and episodes don't get mentioned at all.

My son was really upset as he usually looks forward to Abney and Teal. This show was a load of crap!