New CBeebies show has pissed me right off

PBo83 surely you understand that children are highly influenced by whether something is designated "boys" or "girls"? I'm constantly having to counter this message with my own children.

Yes I was joining in the discussion. I actually wouldn't have known about the t-shirts unless I'd seen them on a sale rail with boys and girls clothes on as I just wouldn't have thought to look at the boys section. So that's the only reason I knew they were there.

Then you your tone seemed to come across like you thought I was a bit stupid or something which I didn't appreciate

@purpleme12

Cool, problem solved then. The tone of your initial post (including the "!") indicated that you were somehow annoyed by this.

Erm actually I did wander over to the boys section! There's no need to have that tone with me

@purpleme12

"... And my girl loves Tom and Jerry
All the Tom and Jerry clothes for kids are in the boys section none in the girls!"

Well, wander 10 yards to the boys section then? In terms of sizing/fit, children's clothes are pretty unisex.

Naturally, shops like to categorise into boys/girls as it makes the layout more user-friendly. It just so happens that boys will 'typically' like certain things more than girls and vice-versa. This will be done on market-research and commercial sense rather than some misogynistic campaign to force your daughter into wearing pink.

From that link more characters are female.

How can anyone tell what sex those characters on Moon and Me are?!

You could read the link someone posted on page 1.
www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/joinin/moon-and-me-meet-the-characters

CBeebies page says sreepy under the stairs eats your soul thing is a girl called Colly Woble

How can anyone tell what sex those characters on Moon and Me are?!

Well, it's a good question. You can't really, but if I had to guess I'd say I that Pepi-Nana and little Nana are meant to be female, Mr Onion and the weird thing it shares a room with probably male, the clown in the bag is the stuff of nightmares and thus probably male, as most (though not all) horror film baddies are. Lily is a plant, so has both male and female sexual organs. The sheep probably doesn't matter.

... And my girl loves Tom and Jerry
All the Tom and Jerry clothes for kids are in the boys section none in the girls!! It's such a neutral programme!

How can anyone tell what sex those characters on Moon and Me are?!

Have to say I didn't notice this angle like I did on Go Jetters, Paw Patrol etc, I just noticed that it was creepy as fuck.

And re: the night garden, aren't the tombleyboos female? And the Wottingers have a mum and a Dad and children who could all be of either gender?

The merch thing really annoys me too, DD wanted Lego movie pyjamas & the only ones I found were in the boys section in John Lewis because obviously only boys like that movie

The thing that annoys me about paw patrol, more than the imbalance of male/ female in the programme, is the merchandise!

Yes, I find this much more annoying than the programme itself: Skye and Everest only on pink nighties; the others only on blue pyjamas (my DD owns both).

I haven't watched Moon and Me because I thought the trailer looked a bit creepy...

We had a interesting discussion with my dad about the boy/girl Wottingers over assumption of the girls having pigtails.

I have problems even with Catie I’m afraid. I feel like her styling (long hair, never tied back; lipstick; nail varnish) is sending the message: “look! You can be girly and still like machines”. Fair enough if that’s what she likes, but I’d like to see more women on telly who aren’t traditionally feminine (like me!) I think CBeebies does better than many but it would be great if girls could just be instead of having to be designated using their appearance (pink; skirts; lipstick etc)

Yes OP is wrong. As in anyone who believes CBeebies under or badly represents females.

And yes, OP missed the bigger issue which is the soul eating Colly Wobe under the stairs. I say ring her and cover her in salt and burn her to ashes then divide them and send them in locked boxes to the four corners of the earth so she can never regenetate

Bowchicawowow my point is there really ISN'T in CBeebies, which makes it probably the best of their channels given the gender bias elsewhere.

I repeat, after much prior analysis of this new programme, colly wobble is the deeper issue here.

That chef and meep thing off the muppets still give me nightmares. It's a merging of both of those.

OP is completely incorrect. The main character is female. Of the five remaining characters two are female, two are male and one is an androgynous lamb. There’s also a little boy at the beginning who tucks the dolls (and insanely terrifying clown) into bed at night. Although it looks like it might be like the Night Garden and feature a different child doing the tucking in each night.

Upsydaisy wasn't the token female in the Night Garden. God knows if she's right about the new Moon baby thing.

Ah, so the OP is completely incorrect?
One female character who is a doll, is just not true is it.

I meant to write half of the Wottinger children, but fuck it, maybe it was all of them now that I think of it.

Wait wait wait
Ms Pontypine and half of her children, Ms Wottinger and all her children, Oo and Ee were all female.
The Harhoos might have been female too, who knows, the less we know about them the better, that's what I say.

SleepingStandingUp There is a great deal of gender inequality on the BBC. It is far wider than CBeebies.

I'd say Cbeebies tends to be fairly even, my baby loves Catie's Amazing Machines, they're amazing and they're machines

Yes DH likes Maddie in Do you Know and Katie and her amazing machines

The thing that annoys me about paw patrol, more than the imbalance of male/ female in the programme, is the merchandise! So often you can't get Skye on a lunch bag or t shirt for boys. And if it's girls items then it's just Skye and Everest. Why can't my son have Skye on his pants?!