RCN going to debate decriminalisation of prostitution

You want to deny them basic rights and protection and to strip them of their chance of escaping poverty

where did anyone say that?

I don't think basic rights and protections for women are best achieved by making it easier for men to buy sex

how would that help?

Google it. You will find that NHS nurses and nurses in the care sector make up a disproportionately high percentage as sex workers.

They get ...... by their employers and the public at large who want them on the cheap. They then get ...... by male punters. You want to deny them basic rights and protection and to strip them of their chance of escaping poverty.

Lolar, I think you might be making stuff up in your head then typing here.

As well as NHS nurses you have 10,000s of nursing home nurses also doing sex work just to survive.

I just don't hear the best gossip in the staff room. 🤭😲😂

the idea that a goddamn UNION would accept that their members should prostitute themselves rather than campaign for better pay

jesus

Strangely enough my answer to low pay for nurses has never been that they should be wanked into. What have I been thinking?

So what is your answer to low wages for nurses?

well it's not making it easier for men to buy sex

funny that

Loads of men get paid less than 23k

No one expects them to sell their arses

Especially not their unions

Yes the answer is pay them more obviously

Which the RCN of all people should be pushing!

So what is your answer to low wages for nurses? The government ministers, heads of NHS trusts repeatedly keep their wages at barely subsistence levels. Tax payers are just not willing to pay extra to bring these predominantly women workers above the poverty line.

Nordic model is a middle class utopia. In reality it will cause more harm to women but perhaps like prohibition we need time to watch it play out.

And yes pop who then needs the crappy 8 hrs of 11-7 of being violated or managing the off duty, in fact you will always be on duty! How wonderful and progressive.

I can see some flaws in the 'three ex-nurses working as maids' model.

Rather than nurses having to work at two different premises (brothel and hospital), why don't we have a single-centre service? It is 2019 people, get with the programme. A one stop shop for brutality and debauchery.

Pimps and punters should set up in the waiting room or day room of the hospital and the nurses can get violated between caring for patients. Hell, they can get violated while they are caring for patients. That would be priced up at a premium service of course.

Female patients will also have the opportunity to be penetrated in order to earn some pin money. Might as well fill the hours when you are recovering from operations, right? Totally empowering. And you're always earning.

Advantages

• We can totally cut out the overheads for the ex-nurses working as maids in tiny cottages. That gives each working nurse more, errrmmm, bang for their buck.

• Medical staff on hand for when the punters get a bit carried away with their abuse

• Cuts down on commuting times between the two premises, enabling those nurses to maximise the number of punters that they can service and therefore increase their pay

• Constant demand from the large number of punters working in and visiting the hospital.

Disadvantages

• Large scale redundancies for the tens of thousands of ex-nurses working as maids in brothel cottages

Hmmm. It is a quandary.

Provides me with more assurance that I did the right thing by leaving the RCN 8 years ago.

July 2018
QuarksandLeptons wrote:
"Jeremy Corbyn now supports the Nordic model

Such fantastic news and real progress. The leader of the opposition has come out in favour of the Nordic model.

twitter.com/sarahchampionmp/status/1015603574829658112?s=21

This is real progress. Sarah Champion and Jess Phillips must have been instrumental in explaining why this model is needed to Jeremy Corbyn who had previously voiced support for full decriminalisation. Full decriminalisation legally favours the corporate prostitution industry (pimps and buyers) over the safety and dignity of the women who end up in prostitution.

The Nordic model is the name for a legal approach to prostitution where the woman (or man) selling themselves for sex is decriminalised and is not prosecuted. Support services are provided for people leaving prostitution. Pimps, brothel owners and buyers who make money out of or buy women for sex are criminalised.

This model is in use in Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Northern Ireland, Canada, France, and Ireland. Rates of trafficking drop when the model is implemented as it reduces the demand for buying women for sex.

More info here:
nordicmodelnow.org/what-is-the-nordic-model/ "

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3300217-Jeremy-Corbyn-now-supports-the-Nordic-model

I make less then 23k. Should I be selling my arse then? It sounds idyllic, you for women brothel. Nice ad. But lolar you missed out the part about having to let strange smelly men violate my intimate parts repeatedly. So I think I'll pass.

'She more than doubles her income whilst managing to stay affordable for the NHS to employ.'

Kind of an implication here that nurses should work as prostitutes rather than getting more nurse pay, for the good of the NHS!

OK right.

Iolar one has to wonder why the women are bothering with nursing at all when they can earn far more money for far less hours in these lovely all female cottages.

When you say 'by women for women'. You actually mean 'for men'. Though don't you. The clients aren't women are they???

A band 5 NHS nurse will make 23,000 p.a. So under £100 a day

An agency nurse by comparison in London can be billing at £300 a day.

In a brothel a nurse can take home more in a shift from 11am to 7pm on her day off than she will make all week in her nursing job and tax free.

She more than doubles her income whilst managing to stay affordable for the NHS to employ.

As well as NHS nurses you have 10,000s of nursing home nurses also doing sex work just to survive.

I'm more concerned about how they find the time.

Nurses shifts are notoriously punishing. Long etc.
They get v tired.
Many have kids.

The idea that they are havign to pull double shifts as prostitutes is appalling and the RCN are totally cockeyed here.

Three ex-nurses all work as maids for one single 2-bedroom cottage?

That place must be spotless.

Fucking hell just how low is nurses pay?

Women shouldn't be criminalised for selling sex, but neither should it be considered as ok.

lolar
I am absolutely appalled by that.
I must be very naive.

The oh so nice, brothel's being run for women by women are still totally and utterly missing the point.

ah, but remember, the right of men to pay for access to women's bodies must take priority over everything!

Nurses are turning to prostitution to make ends meet? obviously the solution is to reduce the risk to punters of paying to have sex with women!