Government funds free Stonewall training for primary schools

YY Lang

Also Noting 2018 updates to that interagency working guidance- I have not looked into it but it is clearly a living document that changes and so compliance will need to be checked regularly.

workingtogetheronline.co.uk

Have these training sessions been assessed for Working Together compliance? If not, why not?

An organised network(stonewall, with key advisor names, do I have to include), with institutional backup, offering trans ideology in a way that undermines safeguarding and is consistent with patterns of grooming, with children clearly placed as objects in adult identities, in a manner likely to lead to harm to them, this, exactly this, is what is my number one issue with the TRA agenda.

Whether wilful or not, the result is the same: normal (primary school aged) children’s behaviour is being sexualised, problematised, and then acted on behind the backs of parents who refute the problematisation of their children.

The children are singled out for special attention and effectively groomed into transhood.

I was a tom boy, I sought refuge in short hair and hanging with the boys from the misery of girlhood.

I am certain that if the GEOs support for stonewalls training existed then, I’d have jumped at the chance to cut my breasts off and take ‘t’, cause I could see then what I can see now: girls are second class citizens.

Be worth emailing her, Pam....

What will make the so-called "Women and Equalities" Ministry stop funding Stonewall?

Are they really unaware of (and just don't care about) the petition signed by LGBT people and those who are concerned about Stonewall's agenda?

Haven't they noticed how Stonewall refuses to engage in a debate about its aims, methods and materials? Any other publicly funded body that failed to account for its record would be given short shrift.

You would have thought that a when a Minister announces an urgent enquiry into the Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria in school girls, that the other parts of the ministry might be more circumspect about letting a pro-trans lobby group anywhere near a school.

How does Penny Mordaunt and her civil servants justify the use of of public funds when it hasn't even published the findings on the GRA?

They couldn't give a toss, it seems to me. Stonewall is a favoured partner and women's organisations - particularly ones supporting lesbian girls - will never get a look in. All those meetings with MPs and the correspondence between Mordaunt and MPs have had no effect whatsoever. It's business as usual.

The Conservatives are toast, and can feck off, as far as I'm concerned

I find this weakening of normal safeguarding on a completely politically-motivated basis very disturbing.

It is strongly networked. And I’d agree completely that it’s grooming. Of institutions, of individuals and of an entire generation. To have no boundaries, no ability to say no, and no power to stop it.

Yes

My son's primary school has a 'trans child' in year 4. Ftm. That's all I know. They've been doing Moffat's stuff as a city wide thing - the programme is v good for general diversity and EA stuff, but I'm not sure it has enough about gender stereotypes. I've linked the two bits I'm not sure on / keen on up thread. The lesson plans I feel follow a particular line that could actually be confusing to any gender non conforming child and might lead them to feel they are in the wrong body when actually they're gender non conforming.

In all this I feel teachers need to know those words as distinct separate words to trans, to be able to be in a better position to support all children understand this.

I feel lucky to have grown up when actually, we did understand it without knowing that's what it was. I do fear the media and overly pinkness of the last 15-20 years has overruled this.

Very good points Lisa. Horribly good points.

Someone say Scotland? where this week a convicted paedophile was let off Scott free and then this:

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/819644/mum-of-supermarket-toilet-sex-assault-victim-warns-freed-attacker-could-strike-again/

You'd think after the Scottish government's endorsement of the human rights breaching LGBT youth guidance which has, this week, been taken apart by Women and Girls in Scotland, they'd think more carefully about allowing lobby groups write policy...

That allsorts toolkit advised that parents may not be supportive so 'professionals' could bypass them

This is something I’m going to point out at the meeting. Most of us attending are fully trained safeguarding leads. We recognise what’s going on here.

Keeping secrets. Ah that Number 1 red flag that anyone working with children is taught with regards to grooming and inappropriate behaviour.

Babelfish That alosrts toolkit advised that parents may not be supportive so 'professionals' could bypass them, keep secrets, in same breath it advised TARGETING special needs kids as young as five. They do know by now that is the case, they do know by now their understanding of the equality act is wrong, they do know about the convictions and associations of MANY individuals. We do live in a country with established safeguarding frameworks which are published and not a problem for every other professional in the country. There is no possible way this can be anything but intentional. THis is not a narcissistic individual with no insight this is a government funded organisation with considerable media power at least. The question with safeguarding is who knew what when. There is no 'we didnt know here', Yes. Yes you did. Which leaves only htat this is deliberate and wilful.

Vulnerable children but more importantly powerless parents

This. The crop of current policies aimed at driving wedges between the child and the parent is so worrying.

It is strongly networked. And I’d agree completely that it’s grooming. Of institutions, of individuals and of an entire generation. To have no boundaries, no ability to say no, and no power to stop it.

Stonewall aren’t short of cash. They have to know their wording on the equality act is wrong. They know. It’s deliberate.

Ba ha ha at the East Midlands! Yes, good thing they're not teaching geography.

"twilight INSET" is about right.

Good luck! I must do the same with my DC's schools. We live in one of the areas listed.

I need to get a transgender trend pack. I'm sure this has been clarified before.

I’ve just ordered ten copies to take to a meeting where there will be other schools, voluntary agencies and health representatives. I’ve been given permission by the hosts of the meeting to bring the pack to share with colleagues.

I’ve agreed to report back to Transgendertrend about how it goes down. I will make sure I let people know that trans lobbying groups are trying to get into schools and deliver their biased and misleading training.

Wish me luck!

Stonewall is now focusing on financially strapped schools to hoover up the working class children

Vulnerable children but more importantly powerless parents. Powerless parents who are more likelt to have hostile relationships with professionals that are not their fault, with a toolkit drawn from the allsorts toolkit which explicitly advised targeting special needs kids, and which was(I am describing a pattern factually Mumsnet mods) Grooming. It was grooming, it described and advised grooming, breaches of safeguarding and a pattern of relationships with children which would be commonly seen in any other third party as grooming with intet to exploit children and incite them to self harming behaviours for adult gratification.

This follows my pet theory; much of the ROGD I've seen or heard about is happening in middle class schools/areas. Stonewall is now focusing on financially strapped schools to hoover up the working class children.

I dont really know how to phrase this without annoying Mumsnet moderators, cos there is no way to state facts and what is in front of us using words only to describe that factually without it breaching moderation.
An organised network(stonewall, with key advisor names, do I have to include), with institutional backup, offering trans ideology in a way that undermines safeguarding and is consistent with patterns of grooming, with children clearly placed as objects in adult identities , in a manner likely to lead to harm to them and adult gratification.

I do not know how to phrase 'a clearly visible network of organised adults using trans ideology to undermine safeguarding and exploit and harm children' without annoying mumsnet mods but that is in fact what we keep discussing and what is clearly, in plain sight, not attempting to hide, with no need to hide if when what this is is stated clearly someone else will say y9ou cant say that. That is what this is.

I don't understand why there is so much focus on gender and sexuality in school. IN SCHOOL. Really - is there nothing else we should be teaching the children - nothing? Bit of science and maths maybe english, or even life skills (cooking, typing, DIY, internet safety, politics, philosophy...).

Is Aimee Challoner still advising Stonewall?

Deeply worrying. My school's experience is of being thrown into a tailspin when we simultaneously had a young child dealing with a family member's transition, plus another child who'd watched an awful lot of YouTube unsupervised. We're just a little school in a working-class backwater, we don't even have kids with gay or lesbian parents as far as I know, and suddenly we had the real threat of contagion to cope with. It's sheer luck I even heard about the situation, let alone that I also knew about Transgender Trend and was able to signpost (and as far as I know we are now taking "watchful waiting" as our policy). As late as last April I'd have gone the Stonewall route too. I'll always be grateful to the friend who shared the link to A Women's Place and onwards to here.

I would say never make the assumption it won't touch your primary school. You don't know how many kids have unsupervised internet access, and you don't know what siblings are up at secondary schools or universities being dragged into social contagion. If you have an opportunity to get TT packs in there, do it asap.