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Article in Dundee Courier about assault of 10 year old girl in supermarket toilets

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howonearthdidwegethere · 02/02/2019 10:25

The original article was very odd in that it completely avoiding naming the sex of the perpetrator. Well, guess what?

Never happens, of course.

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/819644/mum-of-supermarket-toilet-sex-assault-victim-warns-freed-attacker-could-strike-again/?fbclid=IwAR1BjeZ0GLBEa4iRDzUXAABAzAkHHl3HBdfac2NqBfN-JyKO6GYyw1l1FcY

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scotsheather · 16/03/2019 19:38

Sexnotgender and likely they'll freak out at seeing ANY transwoman in the toilets if they know about this, even though the majority wouldn't dream of doing any harm. Sad for the majority but we can't say it "never" happens can we.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 16/03/2019 19:34

however his pro trans rant included a section on how unreasonable it was for women to worry about transwomen behaving badly in women's toilets, tumbleweeds blew through the room.

I bet he blames the crowd for their intolerance, rather than himself for his misogyny.

Nish works on the mash report with Steve N Allen, another man that likes to tell women how transphobic they are. I think they have been trained well by the BBC.

WokerThanWoke · 16/03/2019 19:16

This is in the Scotland section of the Times

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d8cd23e0-4769-11e9-bfd2-5b366418ffd1

wigglybeezer · 16/03/2019 17:07

@adultFemaleElf, I don't do Twitter ( waste enough time on Mumsnet) otherwise I would have, it's disappointing when otherwise sharp observers are so uncritical of trans ideology, John Oliver is another one. I tend to write and rewrite rather rambling replies in my head that I never send, I should work out something pithy I can cut and paste as required.

EweSurname · 16/03/2019 12:06

Richard Garside
@RichardJGarside
I went to an informative briefing yesterday on the Equality Act. An important implication: it is within the law to stop housing trans-identifying males in womens prisons.

In other words, the current prison service policy is a political choice, not a legal requirement.

Lamaha · 16/03/2019 10:36

Just yesterday I read a response by a TRA taunting the writer of a GR critical article that "it doesn't happen", we don't invade women's showers.

The trouble is, if these "incidents" are recorded with females as the perpetrators, as female crimes, how can there ever be evidence?
If there is no such thing as transgender perpetrators, and victims have to say things like "she looked like a man" or "she had a penis" out of fear of being accused of misgendering and breaking the law, how are we ever going to collect the relevant statistics?
People are afraid to speak out when it happens, this will get worse as they gain confidence.
This never happens.
No,never.
Because it's "women" doing it, and the media is collaborating.

adultFemaleElf · 16/03/2019 09:56

Can the PP tweet the article to Nish Kumar? If his act included normalising mixed sex toilets and berating women for whinging then he should own the problems associated with it, he has a platform => responsibility

Sexnotgender · 16/03/2019 09:36

Fuck. Will be sharing that photo with DD who regularly uses the Morrison’s in Kirkcaldy. Loads of school kids use it at lunchtime.

Isadora2007 · 16/03/2019 09:26

This is a photo I found online so can be shared here
I am also local and have a 9 year old daughter. Sadly HER freedom and not “Katie’s” will be curtailed as I often let her go to the toilet etc alone in shops... no more.

Article in Dundee Courier about assault of 10 year old girl in supermarket toilets
StephsCaddy · 16/03/2019 09:15

They won’t ever get it. It will never have any impact in their lives so they don’t have to care.

NopeNi · 16/03/2019 09:04

I am so fucking sick of the Woke Bros. HOW DO THEY NOT GET IT? What will it take to ram it through their skulls that men are a danger to women?

wigglybeezer · 15/03/2019 21:25

I recently went to see Nish Kumar, the political comedian at the Dunfermline Alhambra, mainly to listen to him ranting about Brexit, which was funny, however his pro trans rant included a section on how unreasonable it was for women to worry about transwomen behaving badly in women's toilets, tumbleweeds blew through the room. I very nearly heckled but chickened out, sorry 😕

scotsheather · 15/03/2019 20:14

Would be interesting what prison Katie goes to if thats the sentence, or YOI wing. We have one for male and female here, originally male. Any bets it will be womens, wrongly in my view?

Gingerkittykat · 15/03/2019 17:23

I agree, there was a thread on Facebook earlier where a man complained that KD was given lenient treatment because she was a woman.

A quick link to the page about her being trans in a womens hostel shocked them.

rocketromano · 15/03/2019 16:02

That article doesn’t specifically say they are trans - there will be people out there assuming this is a female sex offender Angry
Why are their feelings more important than the safety of others eg the women who had to share a hostel with a sex offender.
I hope Joan Macalpine is on the case with this again

Gingerkittykat · 15/03/2019 15:59

The photo and accompanying facebook message from an organisation alerting people to sex offenders is being widely circulated locally where the offences occurred so she will not be able to hide behind anonymity anymore.

I very much agree she sounds she poses an ongoing danger to women and girls.

GrinitchSpinach · 15/03/2019 15:37

I think that may be the first photo published of this creep? About time.

jay55 · 15/03/2019 15:34

Sounds like they are too big a risk to be in the community.

MillytantForceit · 15/03/2019 15:22

Sorry?

We have to ask the creeps please not to delete their online perving history????

Gingerkittykat · 15/03/2019 15:16

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/848931/fife-sex-offender-back-in-court-after-breaching-community-payback-order/

Katie Dolatowski breaches community payback order, still at risk of offending.

LangCleg · 27/02/2019 16:01

Sigh @ me. as soon as I think

LangCleg · 27/02/2019 16:01

Honestly, as soon as thing my gast has been flabbered beyond reason, something comes along and flabbers it all over again.

“These are women, they weren’t girls.”

JFC.

VickyEadie · 27/02/2019 15:44

So - they assumed this person wasn't a risk to adult women, on the grounds that this person assaulted a child.

The person also threatened to kill the child's mother.

R0wantrees · 27/02/2019 11:47

apologies, should read 'regardless of age of the female victims'

It is also well recognised that part of predatory paedophile behaviour is that some offenders will target vulnerable single mothers.

This should also be included in risk assessment as is relevent both in Bail Hostels, refuges and female prison estate.