When women are nasty to other women.....

What Langcleg said. Also nothing brings two people together more surely than their dislike of a third, and thus conflict is part of commaraderie? Condemnation allows us to define ourselves as part of the the honourable, brighter, worthier group 😢

Have been thinking today about Posie. Her GC critics seem to be employed women, whose jobs give them a lot of power and voice, for example. Where as Posie is a sahm. Her voice, to my mind, has risen precisely because she is “outrageous” or provocative. I think sometimes it’s easier to look at others who are very similar to us, and prey on small differences to shear up our own identity.

Sorry you’ve been flamer op. It can be brutal 😔

'I've had an experience of being bullied online recently. The sense of shame is not dissimilar to that of being sexually assaulted. Because there's a feeling of 'Was it my fault? Did I deserve in some way? Was I stupid to put myself in the situation. It was only me. It'll be safer not to talk about it.'

I think one of the awful things about online bullying is the feeling it can e done openly to you. I think its very similar to sexual abuse feelings, and I think those behaving that way are always testing that, how far can I go in front of other people, and especially the seeking out distress so they can use it. I dont know what the answer is to that, ubt I hope you ok. Someone behaving that way is absolutely testing to see what their peers will allow them to do and trying to send a message to their victim. Its not ok.

'Jerks' is not a word I would naturally associate with women.

Women can be jerks too.

Men hit each other. Women shame each other.

It is what it is.

It's horrible to be bullied online. Sympathies, OP.

I dont think being a woman is a testament your character and women dont have to be nice to each other. I wont be nice if being nice allows harm, not ever. I try to be kind, I try really hard to think about power dynamics and never to punch down, but being nice and being effective are not the same thing. Not even remotely and women are human beings, not paragons of anything. I sometimes wont be nice cos am in a mood, or someone catches me the wrong way, or maybe I just dont like someone, maybe htey dont like me, and people are complex. The things that bind us dont get rid of what divides us and that is ok. Abusive behaviour doesnt become ok cos someone is a woman.