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Times Article about the movie "Girl"

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Igneococcus · 02/02/2019 08:56

Very interesting article

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/interview-with-trans-twins-arno-and-nora-monsecour-born-identical-boys-now-brother-and-sister-qzzxb38zz?shareToken=6ce9c21861e86cc35d4c7311ccd9cbe3

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Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 02/02/2019 16:10

Yes, definitely not ballet. There is a male dancer who has been dancing female roles recently; apparently he's had facial feminisation and is "gender fluid" but says he's a man & doesn't want to transition etc. TBH, not sure how a dancer could avoid or ignore the implications of biology. The thing that I do find distressing about this one, though, is what he did to cannibalise his body to reduce muscle mass etc. It's really unhealthy.

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/theatre-dance/features/chase-johnsey-ballet-male-ballerina-man-dance-english-national-sleeping-beauty-gender-fluid-a8395781.html

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/02/2019 16:07

True that - but who are we to assume anything these days?

GalacticChickenShit · 02/02/2019 16:00

Trans twins...

But only one of them is trans surely?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/02/2019 15:56

They started in ballet though. And no, a male wouldn't really pass as a classical female ballet dancer - its hard enough as a female to be the 'right' shape and size.

MargueritaPink · 02/02/2019 14:34

She isn't a ballet dancer.

TooMinty · 02/02/2019 14:12

I'm being flippant, I know. But won't ballet be ruined if all male dancers are transitioned?

Juells · 02/02/2019 09:15

Aaron attended consultations there from the age of eight. At 11, Aaron was prescribed puberty-inhibiting drugs.

What strikes me as odd is at how young an age the father went looking for information about gender dysphoria. The child was dancing! Why would he not have thought the child might be gay? Or just like dancing and feminine things?

RedemptiveCrocodile · 02/02/2019 09:07

Same story as always. Boy likes stereotypical girl things, undergoes drastic cosmetic surgery to conform to societal standards. How is this progressive, fabulous or worthy of praise?

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Igneococcus · 02/02/2019 09:06

It often is in the Magazine or Times2 sections.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/02/2019 09:05

It’s a primo piece though.

AngryAttackKittens · 02/02/2019 09:04

Why is the tone so fawning? The Times is a serious newspaper, not an outlet for press releases.

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Igneococcus · 02/02/2019 09:04

It's a contemporary dance company, might not have the same restrictions as classic ballet.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/02/2019 08:59

Too long for this time in the morning! Aren’t they too tall to be a ballet dancer?