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Message from Lynne Featherstone Lib Dems

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PaleBlueMoonlight · 01/02/2019 17:27

“I also have a message to those people who believe they can restrict trans women’s rights, deny their human rights, or exclude them from women-only spaces in the name of feminism: You are not feminists. Your views are not welcome in the Liberal Democrats.”

Just in case anyone is interested in what the Lib Dems are saying.

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WokerThanWoke · 01/02/2019 20:44

Any mention of souls?

Grin fairy

AnyOldPrion · 01/02/2019 20:42

*Her idea of a transwoman is someone like Jan Morris, cultured, sympathetic, nice. Not the shouty TRAs of Sisters Uncut.

Sarah Brown doesn’t come across as remotely nice or sympathetic. The LGBT Lib Dem Twitter account is deeply disturbing.
Helen Belcher presumably comes over as reasonable in person, but you don’t have to scratch the surface of Helen’s activism very deeply to see the weaponised use of suicide and the appalling pressure placed upon women.

I think they are careful not to look. Lord Paddick started to look, was immediately attacked, was the recipient of a complaint. I presume that came from SB, or someone related or similar. I believe it was retracted after a TRA who is less out of control pointed out that Paddick is one of their greatest assets and they would be mad to show him their true colours.

There are some truly devious minds at work here. They work hard to bury a lot of stuff that they know would give them away if the full truth was made public.

Ereshkigal · 01/02/2019 20:41

It will be interesting to see what the webchats are like when the next general election comes round. I’m guessing politicians won’t be falling over themselves to talk to us like they have in the past.

No, we will be pariahs!

Ereshkigal · 01/02/2019 20:40

To Lynne:

That's nice dear. Your party is about as relevant and credible as the Natural Law Party. But as others have said, I will actively canvass to point out your views to as many misguided souls that I come across who might possibly have voted for you. So good on you for making those views quite so easy to disseminate.

LizzieSiddal · 01/02/2019 20:39

Thanks Lynne, Ibe voted Lib/Lib Dems in every single local and national election, for the past 32 years.
I’ll never vote for you again.

God knows who I’ll vote for though.

GCAcademic · 01/02/2019 20:39

It will be interesting to see what the webchats are like when the next general election comes round. I’m guessing politicians won’t be falling over themselves to talk to us like they have in the past.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 01/02/2019 20:32

Ooh do you think we could get Lynne on for a webchat? Shall we ask MNHQ

Grin Grin Grin

great idea

Forgottenagainst · 01/02/2019 20:10

Do share your views on the ‘We used to be Lib Dem Women’ Facebook page. Let them know what we think of their erasure of women.
www.facebook.com/We-used-to-be-Lib-Dem-Women-624259004655583/

merrymouse · 01/02/2019 19:48

Her idea of a transwoman is someone like Jan Morris, cultured, sympathetic, nice.

Whose rights will also be eroded if, as per Stonewall guidance, 'trans' includes both people who have had extensive surgery and require continuous medical care and men who experiment with nail polish at weekends.

Why provide expensive treatment when you can print off a certificate. (Or maybe even a sticker if they are really good?)

Just think how many dedicated services can be eradicated without troublesome equalities legislation. Obviously it's best to start with women, as nobody really notices, but imagine how much money can be saved once race, disability and age can be ignored!

Needmoresleep · 01/02/2019 19:35

Do you think that she might be one of those new posters who have popped up over the last few days to tell us what we should think, and to criticise Posie...

Or is she simply after their votes. If so perhaps she should consider that ‘We are many...’

CallMeSirShotsFired · 01/02/2019 19:33

I also have a message to those people who believe they can restrict trans women’s rights

Aside from the fact this is utter bollocks, how about we look at the rights WOMEN and GIRLS will have TAKEN from them by force.

(Thanks to Rad Fem Fatale on FB)

Message from Lynne Featherstone Lib Dems
HaringeyHarpy · 01/02/2019 19:30

I met Lynne Featherstone once. She was a good MP. She did come across as quite stubborn, though, not exactly a nuanced thinker. She also described herself as a 'bitter' - make of that what you will.

I have no idea why she thinks it's her job to police feminism. That has never worked. Her idea of a transwoman is someone like Jan Morris, cultured, sympathetic, nice. Not the shouty TRAs of Sisters Uncut.

And yes, she and the rest of the Lib Dems are completely unelectable. She must be chuffed she'll never have to deal with those pesky voters and their difficult questions again, sitting pretty in the House of Lords. A privileged woman telling other women to check their privilege.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/02/2019 19:28

I that sense it means “whatever women have, we’ll take that from them”.

Oxytocindeficient · 01/02/2019 19:27

What are ‘trans rights’ exactly? I’d like someone like Debbie from Birmingham or Miranda Yardley to speak to us about it. I’m sure they have, or they’ve written about it probably.

andyoldlabour · 01/02/2019 19:27

The Lib Dems also welcome their newest member - Aimee Challoner - a shining star for the future.
Just when you don't think politics can get any worse!

SanFranBear · 01/02/2019 19:24

Doobigetta - I resigned my membership a good six months ago (after over 20 years of support, i might add) and I still get emails including this piece of shit from Lynne. I hadn't considered if from a PII angle but you're so right.. they need to remove my details! I'll get on that shortly.

They have become so blinded and it genuinely breaks my heart as they still stand for so much that I believe but the fact they are willing to throw me, my DD and every woman in the UK under a bus to appease a small, ridiculously vocal minority makes me so angry. Fuck them

RepealTheGRA · 01/02/2019 19:21

Ooh do you think we could get Lynne on for a webchat? Shall we ask MNHQ Grin

HerFemaleness · 01/02/2019 19:20

These Genderists do get so outraged by unbelievers.

TopBitchoftheWitches · 01/02/2019 19:11

I don't want to remove or resist trans women's rights. I do however wish to keep biological women's rights and spaces as they are. Trans women are able to fight for their own spaces and I would support this.

I'd never vote Lib Dem after this.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 01/02/2019 19:08

I might vote Lib Dem just to piss her off

Ooh nice, reverse psychology

I like it Grin

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 01/02/2019 19:06

Just when I managed to persuade dh to vote lib dem and encouraged ds1 to join

Thats fine dh will go back to voting tory and im fairly positive ds1 subscription has run out

Dunno what im going to do though

Oxytocindeficient · 01/02/2019 19:00

So just a message for women? What about transmen you exclusionary poo-face.

A message to the Lib Dem’s: I’ve voted for you twice. That’s twice too many and you won’t be getting another vote from me.
PS you don’t decide what or who is feminist so fuck off with that bullshit

SlipperyLizard · 01/02/2019 18:54

I wonder if MRAs will similarly be required to centre transmen in their movements, or they’re not real MRAs?

Somehow, it is only the male bodied people whose desires must be centered. Tells me everything I need to know about how the Lib Dems view women.

I voted for them once (to keep the Tories out after moving to what was a “safe” Lib Dem seat). It didn’t work because they went into coalition with them. We now have a Tory MP, and the only realistic way to oust him is to vote Lib Dem. No thanks.

I will email my local candidate to let her know.

Fairyflaps · 01/02/2019 18:52

The LibDems lost me when they said a parliament made up of 50% men and 50% trans women would be an improvement.

@VaggieMight it was at a Fawcett Society event Ask Her to Stand

In one of the workshops later on, there were a group of women stating they felt politically homeless as there was no party standing up for women, while from another part of the room a deep voice from one of the toxic LGBTLD twitter account posse told us all what we were doing wrong.

Very pleased to spot some 'Women don't have penises' stickers in the loos later.

WeAreGerbil · 01/02/2019 18:51

I'm in a Lib Dems target area, politically homeless like lots of us, I won't be voting for them now, and I doubt that message won't go down well in our mostly rural constituency.