Agent Provocateur window displays in House of Fraser

I would too.

If rather a Ladbroke too! By a mile.

Online betting and their aggressive advertising is another matter
And the way so many apps aimed at children promote gambling with in game currency, familiarising them with it.

However they are other issues.

And I can care about both!

I'd rather have a Ladbrokes next to a play area than ropy pictures of women in their underwear

Agreed- misogyny affects everyone.

It is deeply worrying when other women can’t see what is wrong with this sort of advertising too. All women need to wake up and take a stand.

A bit like the Shades of Grey book. I have two adult sons and one of them asked me why a woman would want to be treated like the woman in the book? He couldn’t understand it. Genuinely perplexed. On the one hand we have the Me Too. movement, on the other the casual sexualisation and objectification iof women.for all to see. It’s confusing to both sexes.

I actually worry a lot about it affects boys and young men seeing that sort of image. Also young girls and children. What message are they receiving from such images?

if the posters are in the London branch then it might be worth emailing the Mayor's office? Agree there's a problem with giving Muck Ashley any publicity though.

i\t's 2 sides of teh same coin

• a lot of overlap sexual violence is often presented in media as sexy and in these ads she is trussed up, the fact that it looks uncomfortable is the whole point, that is sexy, that she will make herself uncomfortable to please the male gaze / it's about submission.

Chatty that post really sums up well how I felt as a girl and still feel now.

I get a similar reponse to ads that are "warning" us > like the TFL cab one with a massive picture of a screaming woman in a cab that was up in the tube. In that case it's more about beign reminded you are prey, and of course men are also reminded that women are prey, subconsciously all this iagery must do something. In that case the effect on women is it reminds them they are supposed to live fearfully, for non predatory men and a lot of women it subconsciously feeds into a victim blaming thing, women are prey they should "protect themselves" and if they dont' they know what will happen so if they don't they have been careless...

Yes 100% agree.

Will never forget the feeling of men on the tube looking at page 3 and then looking up and raking their eyes over you. Or seeing them doing it to other girls often underage.

It's vile.

Present women and older girls as objects for sexual consumption by men, say that itis is perfectly fine and normal for public, and teh consequences are obvious. It's dehumanising and the men react accordigly.

Nothing i have felt scared a few times waiting alone on train platforms when they have had billboard lingerie ads up- Boux Avenue I remember as one of the advertisers. (Will never buy from them now- wankers)

Men behave very differently to the real life women around them when there’s a massive advertising shot right in front of them, of a female model being ‘sexy’ in pants and a bra. Its humiliating and hostile and fucking unnecessary. I haven’t seen these Agent Provocateur adverts IRL but I can well imagine how they might be making women feel.

Even putting the feminist angle to one side they are awful photos and don't really make you want to buy the underwear (and I do own some AP underwear!)

Vote with your feet -Mike Ashley will do anything for publicity

No harm in saying it twice frog, you're not wrong.

The first one is a horrid pose, MrsBert has it right about her squeezing out a fart. Plus the lightening is all wrong on her chin.

The second one is disturbing. Underwear to make her look all bound up and with something round her throat to boot.

I do NOT want my kids walking past those sexualised images.

They look sleazy.

oops sorry - dont know how that happened

They are deeply unattractive images.

They are deeply unattractive images.

2 pictures of a woman in complicated underwear but somehow very unsexy. Why is she so grumpy?

It’s a bit much. Especially for children walking by. It’s not needed.

It's a no from me too

Seeing these sorts of images in daily life when I was young, always made me feel deeply uncomfortable. When I grew up I understood why. Because it makes me feel uncomfortable be be reminded when I'm just going about my daily business,what women are really "for". Eye candy for men, sex objects,to have their bodies dsplayed looked at judged lusted over.

I grew up in the late 70s / early 80s so the sun, topless calendars in shops, loads of shite on the telly benny hill is chasing a woman dressed as a schoolgirl HAHAHAHAHA
Then I was a teen when lads mags happened

This is more of the same. It still makes me feel uncofortable, and I imagine a lot of girls and women too.

And what does it tell men and boys? That they are entitled to have almost naked women adorning the high street FFS that their gaze RULES.

Big nope from me.

I sometimes wonder (and have since a teen!) how men would feel if all the sexy images of women in public were switched with men for 1 day. To have submissive, tuned out, head missing etc images, and so many of them. I suspect they would not like it one little bit.

This article makes some valid points about how an overly-sexualised, misogynistic culture ultimately also negatively affects the mental health and expectations of (both sexes of) children. These adverts are part of that culture.

Why should our kids be potentially exposed to harm just to make more money for Mike Ashley/House of Fraser or Agent Provocateur or whoever?

www.economist.com/international/2018/07/19/concern-about-sexualised-children-often-misses-the-point

Again I can worry about all the things you have mentioned and this. I am sorry if you are not able to do this but I am fairly sure I am not unique in this capacity.

Saw this in Manchester last week whilst with my young children and thought it was horrible for a window display.
Fully agree with you op

I agree underwear should be comfy but if its sole purpose was to keep you warm none of us would wear it in the summer.

If I had to list 10 things l am concerned about near playgrounds, this would not be one of them. Betting shops, smoking would both be on the list.

Walk into a playground (with a child) holding hands with another woman and look at the number of parents who try to avert their children’s eyes. This is the sort of thing you should be worried about!

I enjoy nice underwear. And I’m not ashamed to hsve some Agent Prov undies alongside some M&S knix in my top drawer. Bought by me for me. And not to attract any man.