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LinkedIn rant!

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CrumpBrunette · 29/01/2019 23:01

Apols, using this as a ranting board otherwise I'll not get over to sleep!

I was browsing LinkedIn before, saw a post from a woman who works in sales, fairly senior, post was about some big sale she'd made. Picture of her looking v professional holding a contract or the likes. The posts below made my blood boil! Man 1: "Well with legs like that she could sell anything" (she was wearing a skirt below the knee, not that that should matter). Man 2: "Women want equality, well they should try just spending 5 minutes getting ready and not 3 hours and do a real day's work". Man 3: "Yep, I would definitely smash that". Etc, etc. What the FUCK is wrong with some people!!? I reaĺly wanted to comment but sometimes I feel like there's no telling these idiots. ARGHHH!

As I say, just wanted a rant!

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FlyingOink · 31/01/2019 13:27

I'm going to out SprocketCorp into liquidation, I think I've lost my market

DoughnutCowboy · 31/01/2019 12:28

When I've seen it it's either been take accounts (Sprockettcorp?) or people in non-corporste professions.

staydazzling · 31/01/2019 12:05

I'm really surprised genuine buisness profiles would post that stuff clearly no sense of consequence is there?

Horsewithnoman · 31/01/2019 12:01

I've never liked anything made by Sprockercorp.

FlyingOink · 31/01/2019 11:36

Re-quoting on social media - not sure, that seemed to bring a huge backlash down on Charlotte Proudman when she did it.
Good point, probably better done with an anonymous email instead.
But if nothing is said it's just the bystander effect, probably a couple dozen people saw the comments and thought the same thing but nobody said anything. And that's half the problem.

CallMeSirShotsFired · 31/01/2019 10:45

Do you think they really meant it?
Their comments were especially vitriolic, and of a level that anyone would look askance at. Unprofessional was the least of it.

If I said something of that "severity" in my own industry I'd rightfully be in for a bollocking for bringing my company into disrepute.

I know a few truck drivers and cyclists are a serious occupational hazard for them
We've all seen videos of cyclists being utter bellends; just as we've also seen drivers being utter bellends. But we still all have to share the roads and remember that one can kill the other very easily.

DoughnutCowboy · 31/01/2019 10:34

Ihavereported someone in a professional driving job to their employer after they made repeated publicly available statements about how they would love to to run over and kill cyclists.

Do you think they really meant it? I know a few truck drivers and cyclists are a serious occupational hazard for them. I watched a video of a cyclist riding behind a dustcart then other day as it was reversing - it had to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting him. Another cyclist had caught it on his GoPro and then proceeded to lay into the driver despite the fact that all the other traffic had observed what was going on and had patiently waited for the guy to make the manouvre - backing into a side road.

MaybeDoctor · 31/01/2019 09:07

Reporting to LinkedIn - yes

Commenting on the thread that these comments are unacceptable - yes

Re-quoting on social media - not sure, that seemed to bring a huge backlash down on Charlotte Proudman when she did it. Although, I think Charlotte P was right to challenge the person concerned, I wonder if she has suffered reputational damage at the Bar (a pretty conservative environment) as a result.

andyoldlabour · 31/01/2019 08:54

"I made it up to illustrate my point"

Apologies, I am taking everything at face value now Grin

CallMeSirShotsFired · 31/01/2019 08:22

I have reported someone in a professional driving job to their employer after they made repeated publicly available statements about how they would love to to run over and kill cyclists.

I didn't force the employer to do anything, just shared the link where these multiple comments had been made. What they did after is up to them - same as it would be for anyone like OP refers to.

FlyingOink · 31/01/2019 05:53

I agree that lewd comments are unacceptable. I just commented that I'm in general very wary of the trend in recent years to report people to their employers - it's something that is very often abused.
This isn't doxxing. This isn't snooping to find out who someone's employer is and then using financial coercion to get them to shut up.
This is a guy (three men actually) representing his company on what is basically a business networking forum, and making completely inappropriate comments, such that would be deemed harassment in the workplace if the comments had been made there.
Not the same at all. It's not a free speech issue. If I worked for BP and commented as a BP employee that I thought terns look cute covered in oil I'd be sacked. It's an inappropriate thing to say that brings my employer into disrepute. If I worked for Burger King and said it on Facebook, where my profile makes no mention of my job, and you snooped, found out where I worked and shamed them into sacking me for making a stupid edgy comment, that's a freedom of speech issue.

ForrestPlumppp · 31/01/2019 00:40

I agree that lewd comments are unacceptable. I just commented that I'm in general very wary of the trend in recent years to report people to their employers - it's something that is very often abused.

Regarding your other point, I've already been called an MRA several times in the few days I've been posting on here - every time for disagreeing with feminists (last time was when I stated my belief that much of the 'male ideal' of aspiring to be wealthy/successful etc is linked to trying to impress potential partners who value these attributes).

AssassinatedBeauty · 31/01/2019 00:30

Disagreeing with feminism doesn't mean you're a misogynist. Being a misogynist is what does that.

There's no parallel between what you're claiming and the kind of comments in the OP. It's not a matter of context, it's not any kind of slippery slope or double standards. Women should be able to use sites like LinkedIn without being sexually harassed.

ForrestPlumppp · 31/01/2019 00:26

No one would report anyone for saying they don't agree with feminism.

No, they'd call it 'misogyny' but I don't want to derail this thread any further.

AssassinatedBeauty · 31/01/2019 00:21

Sorry, post got scrambled...

The comments in the OP are never going to be anything other than sexual harassment.

AssassinatedBeauty · 31/01/2019 00:19

It's not about the context of otherwise innocuous comments. The comments in the OP are never going to be anything

No one would report anyone for saying they don't agree with feminism.

ForrestPlumppp · 31/01/2019 00:17

Assassinated, that's why I said context is everything. I do believe there are many who would try and report somebody for publicly saying that they disagree with feminism.

ForrestPlumppp · 31/01/2019 00:16

As per the 'Being investigated at work' thread which is literally right below this one...

AssassinatedBeauty · 31/01/2019 00:14

Having opinions is fine. Sexually harassing women on a business forum, not so much.

ForrestPlumppp · 31/01/2019 00:12

I think that notifying an employer of outright lewd comments is arguably justified as it represents the company badly - although honestly I doubt this is really the principle concern of the reporter.

But it's a slippery slope as it can lead to people trying to get others sacked for having the 'wrong opinion' which is what so many feminists are criticising the trans lobby for doing.

Of course context is everything...

TakenForSlanted · 30/01/2019 16:22

Yup, welcome to female life in the corporate world.

I've literally been propositioned on LinkedIn before. It went about like so:

Him: Heeeeeey, great profile picture! Fancy a drink some time?
Me: Yeah, thanks, but no. I'm not really looking to date on here, it's more of a professional...
Him: Weeeeell, I'm actually also the head of corporate development at ...
Me: Confused

Needless to say, there's no way I'd be tempted into meeting with someone who goes about it this way.

FlyingOink · 30/01/2019 14:05

andyoldlabour I made it up to illustrate my point

andyoldlabour · 30/01/2019 13:16

I have tried to Google SprocketCorp, but nothing is appearing, so I reckon it is some neanderthal just creating rubbish to make idiot comments.
If that is the height of his perceived humour, then I don't think he will be going far in life.

FlyingOink · 30/01/2019 12:47

If I see shit like that I'd be screenshotting the offending comment and tagging the employer in a new post about how some men bring all the rest down by acting like such awful examples of their sex.
Maybe via Twitter or Facebook instead, with their job title clearly stated, on the employer's main page.
"John Brown, head of Sales and Marketing at SprocketCorp, said he'd like to "smash" this woman who was trying to talk about her career success on a business networking site. What does that say about SprocketCorp as an employer that John is comfortable making these comments in public? Is he like this at work and do his female colleagues have to put up with it?"
That kind of thing.

CallMeSirShotsFired · 30/01/2019 12:23

If I see shit like that I'd be screenshotting the offending comment and tagging the employer in a new post about how some men bring all the rest down by acting like such awful examples of their sex.