Liz the Glitch stalks Posie and Megan

sackrifice yup exactly. Everyone likes to thank MNHQ for ‘allowing us to speak’ but they do so with a whole lot of conditions, and sometimes it just doesn’t feel that different to Facebook.

The disgusting comments on Lisa’s thread, directed at her, some general directed at everyone else, many of those were permitted to stand and the users harassing her are not banned.

If the comments directed at Lisa were directed at a trans person, the users would have been banned and the thread pulled as 'not in the spirit'.

It really is quite interesting just how much shit women are expected to take as a matter of course.

It's really interesting how this discussion makes people feel unsafe. On one hand women may feel unsafe because of the abuse, violence and intimidation that's been directed at those who've stuck their heads above the parapet.

Whereas trans people seem to feel unsafe because of, what? Uncomfortable truths? I can see why to be honest. Their view of reality appears to be based on somewhat shaky foundations and to see those foundations being eroded must be a very unpleasant experience.

I witnessed an interesting convo on r/MtF discussing r/gendercritial and r/detrans. They opened the post with the usual "it's a horrible place - transphobic, hate group, dehumanising" etc. but in the comments went into more detail about what specifically made them feel uncomfortable in r/gendercritical and it was that the gender critical logic made sense and made them question themselves...

I've reported posts in the past that could be read as offensive, even when I know (or rather, strongly suspect, based on previous posting history) that they aren't intended that way, because we know that we are being watched and certain people leap on anything that looks slightly dodgy and post screen shots all round the internet as proof that we are all nasty bigots

their moderations are completely random and inconsistent

Oh god yes

Ive seen deletions that ive thought WTF

But i can see why i was deleted following the report

Absolutely glitter

Wouldn't have dreamt that it would be taken that way or I wouldn't have written it

But if someone thinks its out of order they should definitely report and i know you didnt report this one...it really wouldn't be a problem if you had

The disgusting comments on Lisa’s thread, directed at her, some general directed at everyone else, many of those were permitted to stand and the users harassing her are not banned. So as much as everyone likes to be grateful to MNHQ, their moderations are completely random and inconsistent. They expect certain women to take a whole lot of crap without defending themselves.

I didn't mean it that way, if your post is one deleted, glad you (hopefully) realise that as you seem a nice in the middle one on here lol.
Don't know who it was, but I'm glad they did see fit to say something.
They must have seen it too even if you didn't mean it that way.

Baseball bats aimed at women. They just cannot help themselves.

Im not going to argue with mnhq either olennas

I personally feel it was a bit of a stretch and certainly not something my mind would have jumped to but i understand that MNHQ have to react to reports and that however unintentional my post was taken in a way that could be upsetting

And I understand that glitter didnt report it

Yeah, they’ve allowed posts making all kinds of accusations to stand, lots of personal attacks... that’s ok. I’ll not hesitate to report certain users now.

I believe Liz referenced The Degenderettes in their post about the bat. Given that, there is no way Liz was unaware of the true meaning of the bat and to say otherwise with some attempt at faux innocence was frankly pathetic. My 6 year old lies more convincingly and he can’t stop himself grinning when he’s fibbing.

America is an extremely violent country. I have not doubt Liz felt empowered displaying a weapon. To display a weapon, though, is to threaten. That is the entire purpose of the display.

Here is a woman using a bat in what was recently one of the most popular television shows in the US. Not a doubt in my mind that Liz knows all about the dual purpose of baseball bats:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=J51Mpwbn4pg

MNHQ have told me that my post was deleted because "We don't find this to be in the spirit of civil debate and as such, the post was removed."

I am still somewhat perplexed, given the posts that are allowed to stand (on here and on the wider site), but there you go. I CBA to argue about it - I fully admit wasn't making some deep and insightful comment that everyone ought to read

A couple I did. As no, I'm entitled to my opinion and they were fucking nasty. The other couple though were nothing to do with me and I'm glad others picked them up

Many people find violence empowering. Just because something is ‘empowering’ doesn’t mean they don’t know exactly the threatening message it sends.

Cross posted with Oxy. I rest my point. Whatever.

Wokenotbloke people may find this hard to believe what with being called a TRA and worse on here, but I agree with your last post ( well the bit you quoted) You don't think she was being disigenous. I don't either. Might not be a popular opinion but I do think a lot on here are clouded by their own beliefs and can't see anything else. Even things that can be entirely innocent. I know from experience on MN over the years that if you have a different opinion you're automatically an enemy, a TRA, even if you agree on some things.
Don't know who the Esther you're referring to is.
Would have been good to hear her side before it got deleted.

I find it hard to believe all these deleted posts directed at glitter, weren’t reported by glitter...

I was deleted and told it was because i’d Made a personal attack on Glitterstick. I didn’t - it was about the idiot in her pants holding a baseball bat - featured in the original op.

I think Liz is very literal - men use violence to get power, women are told they are empowered by posing in their knickers. Double whammy!

Still cringing.

Especially when the person is posing in their pants. I suppose if I commented on what that made me think then this post would be deleted.

I don't know... it seems very disingenuous to pose with a weapon and yet claim to be unaware of the violence associated with the imagery. Also to expect people to believe that you think that empowerment is something that can be achieved with weapons, without being violent? It doesn't make any sense.

They were everso prompt with their reply olennas

Theyve always been very helpful if ive got a query