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The logic of non-binary/ gender-fluid

64 replies

TrashyTerf · 24/01/2019 18:36

I am honestly not saying this to be goady. I am genuinely trying to understand this issue further. I tried asking on a transgender sub on Reddit, but I was instantly banned. If it is too offensive to be discussed here, then I do apologize and will ask for it to be removed.

My question is this:

How can non-binary and gender-fluid exist alongside transgender?

From what I understand, transgender people believe that they have the wrong brain for their body. This error happens in the womb. Fine.

Non-binary people believe that they have no gender. But then, does this mean that their brain is genderless? Is this also an error in the womb?

Gender-fluid people believe that their gender changes daily. Does this mean that their brain changes daily too?

For me, the logic falls apart when comparing these three things. I don't think they can logically exist together.

Can someone talk me through it?

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ErrolTheDragon · 24/01/2019 18:58

Maybe the 'logic' is like interfaith groups - religious people making common cause with others who have beliefs entirely inconsistent with their own, but who at least put belief before science and rationality?

JSmitty · 24/01/2019 18:55

"It's all bit Transformers: Genders in Disguise! isn't it?"

That's Trans Formers, you cis former scum.

Altogther:

Trans Formers are Formers!

Bubonicpanic · 24/01/2019 18:54

I've been non binary gender fluid all my life. It's about trying to stop people from telling me I can't do stuff cos they are man things, not women things.

Same old liberation from sexist stereo types but now I need a badge saying they or all of the non binary achievements of women of my generation are boring middle aged white feminism.

LangCleg · 24/01/2019 18:51

It's all bit Transformers: Genders in Disguise! isn't it?

That's what comes of retrofitting material reality.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 24/01/2019 18:49

There is no logic. Because it is all about "being nice" and "not debating someone's existence".

pombear · 24/01/2019 18:47

The hormone wash within the womb was accidentally set to 'delicate wash 30 degrees' and therefore just sloshed around a bit, left a pleasant scent but did fuck all really, apart from coming out dripping wet because 30 degrees = we're not going to spin you very fast either 'cos you're delicate.

Therefore poor foetus waiting for instructions as to 'male or female programme' or 'male body-female brain-oopsy/female body-male/brain-oopsy' just tumbled around a bit in the water and now sits on the clothes-horse wondering what the fuck happened.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 24/01/2019 18:46

There is no logic.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 24/01/2019 18:46

There is no logic so it is waste of time trying to find any kind of logical consistency. It's all about subjective feelings and forcing others to validate those subjective feelz.

Ereshkigal · 24/01/2019 18:45

It might be illustrative to listen to the recording from a recent Mermaids training session. The jelly baby theory will sort out your confusion.

Ereshkigal · 24/01/2019 18:44

Followers of Gender can absolutely believe 6 impossible things before breakfast. They don't tend to concern themselves with coherence, consistency or logic.

BareBelliedSneetch · 24/01/2019 18:43

Pips Bunce makes a complete mockery of the whole trans argument. And yet they embrace him/her (I have no idea what colour lace he/she is wearing today Hmm)

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 24/01/2019 18:41

Bla bla dwinbbly wisblelly dickidada. There you go (makes as much sense).

They are just boring people trying to be interesting.

AnyOldPrion · 24/01/2019 18:41

Your mistake is in assuming there’s some logic you’re missing. There isn’t.

waxy1 · 24/01/2019 18:40

The answer is “shit.”