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Another cyclist

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andyoldlabour · 23/01/2019 16:02

If anyone like myself was "peak transed" by the McKinnon story, and they know of someone who needs convincing about TW's competing in women's sport, then this may help.
I don't know how this went under my radar, but in New Zealand there is a young (21) downhill mountain bike rider called Kate Weatherly, who up to around 14 months ago was competing as a pretty average guy. Within 3 weeks of leaving the male side of the sport, Weatherly won their first women's race, and went on to win the 2018 National New Zealand championships in February of last year.
Weatherly will this year be riding in World Cup events.
Fellow competitors are not happy about it, and I know that I wouldn't be if I was in their situation.

www.foxsports.com.au/more-sports/concern-over-lack-of-stand-down-period-for-transgender-downhill-mountain-biker/news-story/493e4d8a05d18a385145382e2d229c99

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arranbubonicplague · 24/01/2019 10:08

Eradicated in Plain Sight...

Tanith · 24/01/2019 09:37

They need a transgender class. Then they can win (which is what they want to do) until other transgender athletes turn up to compete with them.
It’s exactly what women have done - I remember being the only entrant in my class for a County competition in my sport. Very happy with my gold medal, I was Grin

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andyoldlabour · 24/01/2019 07:52

This is another, more in depth article about Weatherley, and IMHO it shows the arrogance of the person and the crass stupidity of the sport's governing body.

interactives.stuff.co.nz/2018/03/a-level-playing-field/

"Weatherly hopes she can lift standards in women's downhill.

"I'm quite a confident rider so I hit a lot of jumps which some of the other girls don't."

"She understands the concerns of her fellow competitors, but asks that they take the time to read up on the subject and be considerate - one online post can unleash a flood of transphobic comments."

"Andrew Matheson, CEO of Cycling New Zealand, wouldn't be interviewed.

He says in a statement the organisation's job is to ensure that where possible trans athletes are not excluded, "but at the same time our overriding sporting objective remains to guarantee fair competition".

He won't discuss Weatherly for privacy reasons, but confirms she meets the necessary criteria and will be eligible for international competition if selected."

So, there you have it, the cyclist in question doesn't see anything wrong with their actions and the CEO of Cycling New Zealand doesn't see a problem with cheating - possibly at international level.

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Porridgeoat · 24/01/2019 05:08

I have a chrystal ball. I can see into the future. At some point the women’s team will mostly be made up of mediocre men. Infact it might just contain wholly mediocre men claiming to be women and no women. Wouldn’t that be ironic.

Time40 · 24/01/2019 03:22

What's with the "they" nonsense? Why not just call him "he"? I'm interested to see if my post gets deleted for that!

OtepotiLilliane42 · 24/01/2019 02:22

I think that NZ Sporting organisations need to think seriously about what kind of message they are sending to girls and women with these ridiculous decisions.
What is the point of training hard in your chosen sport if you can be suddenly replaced by a cheating male? This has already happened of course with the inclusion of Laurel Hubbard in the NZ weightlifting team, which meant that a young woman lost a chance to represent NZ in an international competition. This case is highlighted in the link below, as well as that of Rachel McKinnon. And apart from girls and women missing out, or being discouraged from taking up a sport in the first place, New Zealand will become known as a country willing to cheat in order to win. Which no Kiwi should be happy about.

speakupforwomen.nz/what-is-to-become-of-womens-sport/

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 23:07

Beup I think you need to get off the be fence

I think she's summed up perfectly what most people actually think about these happenings.

WokerThanWoke · 23/01/2019 23:03

Lance Armstrong at least made an effort with his cheating.

Porridgeoat · 23/01/2019 22:24

‘If everyone’s not happy then maybe everyone’s not doing their best racing and I just want everyone to be having fun and doing their best.” Said weatherly.

Women try harder!?

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andyoldlabour · 23/01/2019 22:16

Lance Armstrong in my opinion was a cheat and a doper, but he didn't get anywhere close to what these people are doing.
There is something very sinister about a system which allows this to happen.

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MsTSwift · 23/01/2019 20:29

Beup I think you need to get off the be fence Grin

Zwischenwasser · 23/01/2019 20:04

This was what Peak transed me last year.

The ‚‘i have no advantage, despite obviously being a shit male Rider 3 weeks ago. Women should try harder‘ attitude.

FFS

Cheaty McCheatface

WrathofRancidKlopp · 23/01/2019 19:33

Don't forget the joy of showering and changing with the girls.

Cheat

JackyHolyoake · 23/01/2019 18:46

What will become even more apparent is that the entire "transgender" agenda is entirely bogus and that it is males' intent to eliminate females from public life in all its spheres.

BeUpStanding · 23/01/2019 18:30

CHEAT, CHEATER, CHEATING, CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT

ChewyLouie · 23/01/2019 18:28

Another mediocre male trans person wins female race. How to cheat your way to the top.
What’s next I wonder? Competing against people with disabilities and smugly claiming disabled athletes should ‘try harder’.

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andyoldlabour · 23/01/2019 18:14

I am going to have to monitor Weatherly's progress at the various World Cup events this year, because Britain's Rachel Atherton is a four time winner.
I only happened across Weatherley by chance when looking at this cyclist, another Canadian TW - Michelle Dumaresq.

www.outsideonline.com/1822371/michelle-raises-hell

As if that wasn't bad enough, one of the women competitors who complained about Dumaresq was banned for 3 months.

www.cyclingnews.com/news/canadian-cycling-suspends-danika-schroeter/

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 23/01/2019 17:43

Nope

littlbrowndog · 23/01/2019 17:39

Don’t they feel any shame. Just a wee bit of shame over their cheating

SkylightAndChandelier · 23/01/2019 17:08

The confusion about the crossover period of transgender athletes is now causing some riders to shy away from competition in the sport, according the NZ Herald

Was it on here or in an article that the reason women were staying away was that having an amateur barrelling down a hill behind (or in front) of you is bloody dangerous, especially when they've got a good few kilos on you due to their larger frame.

“If everyone’s not happy then maybe everyone’s not doing their best racing and I just want everyone to be having fun and doing their best.”

Weatherly's best just isn't up to standard, that's the problem, and it's dangerous to the other racers.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 23/01/2019 17:07

Wait until there are two in the same race. I can only imagine the excuses of whoever comes second. It won’t be pretty or ladylike.

ScienceIsTruth · 23/01/2019 17:02

I see there's the usual: "it's not my fault that the women don't try harder".

It's also not the women's fault that he wasn't good enough to place in the men's races.

CallingDannyBoy · 23/01/2019 16:58

It’s Emperor’s New clothes and I can’t understand why people try to argue it’s fair. It’s making me angry now.

JSmitty · 23/01/2019 16:56

It's OK. My Kawaski 750cc triple identifies as a pedal cycle.

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