5 Gateshead councillors stick their heads above the parapet

According to the chronicle article, a local Lib Dem said "Those behind the motion would do well to experience some trans awareness training" which just sounds like re-education in the gulag to me.

I've seen concerns outlined by an lgbt person online (not sure who they are) and a lot of it doesn't make a huge amount of sense.

So if it is to be properly examined, in a way, let it be so. Given the demographic of the area this needs extremely careful thought, is backed up by current law and can't forfeit women's rights.

sorry - try again with link! www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gateshead-labour-accused-attack-transgender-15724430

Maybe we should all have kept quiet about this

As might have been expected this motion has now been postponed following protests.

The motion, which was due to be proposed at Thursday's full council meeting, raises fears that the changes could impact women's rights.

It suggested a list of concerns and wordings that the council should adopt as its stance on the issue.

It has since been deferred so that representations on this can be heard.

The document called for more consultation, saying that public buildings should be used for this.

It said that it was important the consultation be accessible to all, and not just through an online document.

Coun Malcolm Brain, speaking in his capacity as secretary of Gateshead Labour Group, said that the motion had been delayed to allow people in the borough to give their views.

He said: "We've had a request to hear representations so we have deferred the motion to allow us to do that.

"If anyone has a view on the gender recognition act they should give that through their local councillor."

[https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gateshead-labour-accused-attack-transgender-15724430]

The LGBT group won’t be looking for opinions they don’t agree with.

That’s back to front thinking though - they represent LGBT Labour members, they should listen to the opinions and needs of LGBT Labour members whether the core of the group are 100% personally in agreement or not.

Good luck!

LGBT labour are looking for responses to share at that meeting. I'm not a labour member, so don't know if I can legitimately 'respond' but I -' quite certain they are looking for views from the broad church of Labour Party members.

The LGBT group won’t be looking for opinions they don’t agree with.

I live in that region. Not one of their specific wards, my councillor is a Lib Dem. but well done to all of them for taking a sensible road

Yes! Near me too. No nonsense up here 😂

Ahh shoulda kept it on the down low until after the vote.
For the locals to decide.
Much pressure and targeting of these councillors likely.

Extremely good point sex.

Roughly more than 8000 Haredi Jews now.

...Not to mention the South Sheilds Yemenis.

GRA would make life really difficult for the orthodox Jewish women living in Gateshead (quite a significant community) who can only use sports facilities during women-only sessions. It would be terrible if the Labour Council were seen to be doing things that could be interpreted as anti-Semitic.

Declaration of interest: I use public sports facilities in Gateshead, and I am not going to share changing rooms or showers with penises.

Good luck, hope others will follow suit and question the current dogma.

AspieAndProud and Cwenthryth

As they say

Divvnt worry pet!

Watching with interest.

Gleepgorp

Yes one of the Councillors proposing the motion has updated on this thread earlier today.

I’m very confident that the Cllrs will be meeting with women’s groups 😁

The motion has been postponed or deferred after a call to arms from LGBT Labour.

twitter.com/LGBTLabour/status/1088032815231438848?s=19

And final point I really resent this persistent framing of LGBT vs women - it is very possible to be both of these groups, very many of us gender critical women are lesbian or bisexual, there are gender critical gay men and gender critical trans people too.

And yes to Aspie’s point, @LeighKirton would you also meet with a group representing women? Seems only fair. I’m sure there are FPFW or WPUK members reading this who could reach out.

to me it's obvious that the Geordies will never accept this brave new world of multiple genders

I'm from Yorkshire I I would have typed those exact words about Yorkshire tykes a couple of years ago but look at what's been going on Leeds.

www.lgbtlabour.org.uk/

I don’t know if that group was representing LGBTL directly, Heather Peto (LGBTL’s trans officer) is in that photo though.

Maybe Leigh could provide an email for non LGBT constituents/labour party members to forward their views/feedback on the motion. Seems reasonable to give balance.

Agree Aspie v good point